Jack The Ripper Identity Revealed After DNA Match 😳🔪
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Once upon a time I had a client, who caught his wife with another man.
He filed for divorce and in Missouri, you can’t get a divorce if the wife is pregnant.
Turned out she was.
After the babe was born, both her lover and husband took a DNA test.
My client came sadly into my office with his test results that read inconclusive.
I called the state and the lawyer said relax, the other guy is the father.
Had a positive accurate to one in 3.2 billion.
From that day on I’ve considered DNA tests with some suspicion, and here’s why.
Inside the room where they are made there’s a clock on the wall, and supper is waiting at home.
The reason you see prosecutors resist DNA tests is the tiny but real chance of a false negative.
And the chances of a false positive are much higher.
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There’s also the chance of a fabricated result. Like the baseball card collectors who find Honus Wagner cards buried in mason jars or at garage sales.
The real question is, why did the Ripper stop, or did s(he) them?
He filed for divorce and in Missouri, you can’t get a divorce if the wife is pregnant.
Turned out she was.
After the babe was born, both her lover and husband took a DNA test.
My client came sadly into my office with his test results that read inconclusive.
I called the state and the lawyer said relax, the other guy is the father.
Had a positive accurate to one in 3.2 billion.
From that day on I’ve considered DNA tests with some suspicion, and here’s why.
Inside the room where they are made there’s a clock on the wall, and supper is waiting at home.
The reason you see prosecutors resist DNA tests is the tiny but real chance of a false negative.
And the chances of a false positive are much higher.
News: Study Finds Inaccuracies in 40 Percent... (The Scientist) - Behind the headlines - NLM
(The Scientist) Study Finds Inaccuracies in 40 Percent of DTC Genetic Testing Results. Associated research findings from the National Library of Medicine.
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There’s also the chance of a fabricated result. Like the baseball card collectors who find Honus Wagner cards buried in mason jars or at garage sales.
The real question is, why did the Ripper stop, or did s(he) them?
Another theory I read was that the Ripper didn't stop. The theory was he traveled to other countries, committed murders and then would move on. His last stop was the United States where he would just travel from state to state.
The serial killer is known in all nations and in all times.
Axeman of New Orleans - Wikipedia
What made the Ripper so famous was his (her, them) crimes were done in an area of intense law enforcement.
To be a serial killer, they have to escape being caught at least once.
There are fewer murders of all types, because society prevents more murders, by a variety of methods.
Why are there fewer serial killers now than there used to be?
Despite the outsized place serial killers hold in pop culture, the number of known serial killers has dropped since the 70s & 80s.
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What has increased, is the mass or spree killers, who always get caught or kill themselves.
Why number of US mass shootings has risen sharply - BBC News
There have been 131 mass shootings since the start of 2023 - higher than previous years.
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This is an excellent book.
The Man from the Train - Wikipedia
The “man from the train” today could not have found an axe in his victim’s woodpile.
The doors would likely be locked.
Everybody he wanted to kill would have a cell phone.
He’d likely get caught after the first murder.
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There all sorts of theories about this 'Ripper' fellow. Considering the grinding poverty in East London at the time I have always thought that the murders were just grouped together and not the work of a single mad man. There is no doubt in my mind that Kosminski probably killed one of the women but on the other hand compelling arguments have been made for some of the killings were carried out by the artist Walter Sickert. These tend to fall apart under closer scrutiny. The most amusing is the James Maybrick theory backed up by a questionable diary that suddenly appeared detailing the mans written confessions. You can go down a memory hole trying to guess who carried out the murders in Whitechapel but in the final analysis the most logical explanation is probably the correct explanation.
There have been some arguments there were many Zodiac killers.
But there was only one “Son of Sam”.
Whoever the Ripper(s) was, they not only committed a gratuitous murder(s), they did it for publicity and had no empathy.
I have favored a ceremonious, legal, judicial, death penalty all my adult life. Many people I respect oppose it.
But a serial killer is the best argument for a death penalty.
Not so much for deterrence or even to satisfy a thirst for justice.
To put the right end to the story.
They would have hung the Ripper higher than Haman.
Not like Dennis Rader.
Dennis Rader - Wikipedia
@Briar Lee: I think what most people tend to overlook is that these women were at the bottom of Victorian society and thus not very important in the scheme of things as far as Scotland Yard or the local police were concerned. I believe one of the women suffered from Brights Disease, a very high proportion of them were heavy drinkers and habitually homeless or at the very least subject to homelessness when they were unable to sell their bodies to pay for a nights lodging. This type of situation creates the perfect setting for random acts of murder and given the 'Penny Dreadful' state of the media of the day probably fueled a wave of copy cat murders and lurid letters from 'Saucy' Jack to the local press. I believe Inspector Abberline was of opinion that Kosminski was the killer but he never claimed that he killed all of the women. The easiest way to resolve this DNA argument would be to dig up Kosminski and test his bones. If the mystery is solved it would remove from the crime ecosystem a wonderful cottage industry of unmasking a new 'Ripper' every few years!
Somebody wrote all those stories in the Penny dreadfuls, and they had to have the paper boys sell them to the public.
Whitechapel was a squalid slum where the lowly dwelled. There were many scarlet women, who nobody cared at all about, except the Lord.
To sell papers, it’s good to think what Jesus would have done.
What was the fate of Whitechapel?
What does it look like today?
Whitechapel - Wikipedia
The art of writing for the newspapers is to motivate what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature, against the dark angels that also perch on our other shoulder.
It has not been solved. Russell Edwards made the same claim about 10 years ago and he was proven to be incorrect because too many uncertainties prevailed.
In a nutshell, the provenance of the shawl itself cannot be proven. Then there is the contamination after such a period. And other arguments.
I don't even know why, besides the need for publicity, Edwards put that one back on the table.
In a nutshell, the provenance of the shawl itself cannot be proven. Then there is the contamination after such a period. And other arguments.
Kosminski Shawl DNA published as peer reviewed paper in Journal of Forensic Sciences - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums
No comment, as I have not read it, nor do I know to what extent it has been peer reviewed. But I am posting here for discussion: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/03/does-new-genetic-analysis-finally-reveal-identity-jack-ripper Rob House
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I don't even know why, besides the need for publicity, Edwards put that one back on the table.
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It's a great way to sell books. As I have previously remarked Whitechapel and its surrounding area was a horribly squalid and desperately poor part of Londons east end full of new arrivals from Russia. Violence against women was very common. The only incentive for the police to do anything came from Queen Victoria when she heard about these murders and ordered something be done to stop them. For those of you who fancy themselves as amateur detectives he is link to the entire list of suspects. Some are plausible whilst others are out right crazy - enjoy!
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Jack the Ripper suspects - Wikipedia
There is an industry built around the Ripper case being unsolved, the same as is built around the “controversy” over who shot JFK.
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The deejay interrupted Talk Back Trembling Lips while my Daddy was frying us bologna about 12:45 that day and said
President John F Kennedy has been shot and wounded by a sniper today at 12:30 in Dallas Texas. We return to our regular programming.
The phone started ringing as I turned on the television in the living room.
The media reported three shots, but I know now there were only two.
One through Kennedy that went on to wound Connelly.
And the other one in the back of Kennedy’s head.
The third casing was a snap cap empty shell, found on the floor.
Takes all the mystery out of it, but there will be more books about it later.
The Titanic hits the iceberg over and over and over again.
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@Briar Lee : JFK is another recurring piece of history forever getting the 'treatment' with the conspiracy theory de jour. Funnily enough one of my friends in NOLA was a great chum of Jim Garrison and also knew Clay Shaw. The stories he would tell about Garrison after a few cocktails were truly epic and certainly contradict the version portrayed in the movie JFK!
Was Garrison a fraud, or was he as gullible as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle?
The Warren Commision was right about everything except Oswald only shot twice.
Garrison was a trained lawyer, like me.
But anybody who understood Oswald stored his rifle in Mrs Paine’s garage should have known, it was the murder weapon.
Two fresh empty cases on the floor, plus a case with a dented rim.
Of course.There is an industry built around the Ripper case being unsolved,
I wish I was the first to raise that theory.
The best argument for a woman, is the police wouldn’t be looking for a female killer.
The best against it, is that the victims didn’t have many female customers.
The Whitechapel area, was heavily patrolled.
In a previous young life I was student officer 91 with the University of Missouri at Kansas City, and I’ve filled out countless reports like those Bobbies did.
I carried no weapon, and in my uniform I stood out like a flare, and those coppers did too. That’s the point of a roving patrol. I’d vary my beat sometimes, so as not to be predictable. The idea is to deter crime.
There was one ripping, then two, and a double event. Those cops on their beat were looking for men, not women. The women of Whitechapel were the Ripper’s targets.
The problem with a Jill the Ripper, is a sharp cop would have placed her at the scene of all four of the first slayings.
The argument for a woman ripper is the fifth and last victim was by far the youngest and prettiest and was the most mutillated.
Her womb was surgically removed.
Fetal abduction - Wikipedia
On that same line, I doubt Scott Peterson killed Lacy.
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Infertile women can do some unbelievably wicked things to women who take children for granted.
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