Yes, I've noticed that. Cob afficionados & aromatic smokers likewise. Lacking a sense of humour is also a trait.The other think about Tolkiens fans is that they’re wicked thin skinned.
Yes, I've noticed that. Cob afficionados & aromatic smokers likewise. Lacking a sense of humour is also a trait.The other think about Tolkiens fans is that they’re wicked thin skinned.
Exactly. I get a bit tense at the terms "overrated" and "overhyped" used in terms of literary criticism. It's more of a personal bias than a criticism. But having it as your opinion is perfectly fine.Well, differing opinions.
What I see is a stream of seemingly never-ending franchising around Tolkien.
TV series, movies, spinoff-series, toys, posters, video games, t-shirts etc etc.
McDonalds, Nike, Tolkien, Harry Potter, Starbucks, McTolkien.
Perhaps the best speech in history.
It was written for a different time and era. I enjoy the descriptions and history from a historical standpoint. Today authors need not write in such descriptive ways as our imaginations have "evolved" since then. Reason I dislike George R. R. Martin.For the record, I am not a Tolkien fan. I find his writings to be too tedious and overdrawn for my patience. I also prefer stories that don't require a ton of back knowledge to know what is going on with the plot.
I can see that ... its not for everyone. But the stories can be read without the background knowledge on their own merit. As pointed out previously, the impressive nature of the work is that he started out with a language; then wrote stories to illustrate the development of the language; then created a world and history to give the stories context ... the sheer immensity of it is amazing and he was one for the first to do it ... and all to tell his kids stories to convey deeper truths in life. So all in all ... a feat of genius.For the record, I am not a Tolkien fan. I find his writings to be too tedious and overdrawn for my patience. I also prefer stories that don't require a ton of back knowledge to know what is going on with the plot.
I agree that Tolkien was indeed a genius. I also agree that he was a talented story teller.I can see that ... its not for everyone. But the stories can be read without the background knowledge on their own merit. As pointed out previously, the impressive nature of the work is that he started out with a language; then wrote stories to illustrate the development of the language; then created a world and history to give the stories context ... the sheer immensity of it is amazing and he was one for the first to do it ... and all to tell his kids stories to convey deeper truths in life. So all in all ... a feat of genius.
It's not directly related but I would like to see a movie made of The Long WalkGood thing few have read Stephen King's "Rage".
There were so many other writers from that exact same era that were nowhere near as verbose as Tolkien. Hemingway’s first novel for example came out almost 10 years before The Hobbit. His prose is obviously much more lean and concise than Tolkien’s.It was written for a different time and era.
Hemingway was a great short story writer but his novels are lackluster. Tolkien invented the genre of high fantasy.There were so many other writers from that exact same era that were nowhere near as verbose as Tolkien. Hemingway’s first novel for example came out almost 10 years before The Hobbit. His prose is obviously much more lean and concise than Tolkien’s.
I love Tolkien’s world that he created but his writing style isn’t my favorite. His books don’t exactly feel like page turners for much of the time.
I wasn’t praising or criticizing Hemingway, I was simply using him as an example to make a point.Hemingway was a great short story writer but his novels are lackluster. Tolkien invented the genre of high fantasy.
And George Lucas probably cries at night over what Disney has done to his franchise, but dries his tears with crisp Benjamins.Tolkien fought all his life to control his works to great expense. In later years he told his son Christopher that it was a never ending battle and to go for the money as the original works stand alone. --- Something to that effect. Its in the Tolkien letters. I think the taxes changed his mind.
I promise I know the difference between there and theirThere were verbose writers then just like their are today.
Nah, you criticized Tolkien so you don't get the benefit of the doubt, unbeliever.I promise I know the difference between there and their
It’s incredibly ironic that autocorrect threw me to the wolves in a thread about an author that was a professor at Oxford.
I know… I’m banished from the forum now.Nah, you criticized Tolkien so you don't get the benefit of the doubt, unbeliever.
Fool of a Took !I know… I’m banished from the forum now.
Lord Tolkien, inventor of the pipe itself, has henceforth cursed my username.
The dispute about the pluar of dwarves/dwarfs and elves/elfs from the man who helped write the Oxford dictionary (with the letter W) is humorous.I promise I know the difference between there and their
It’s incredibly ironic that autocorrect threw me to the wolves in a thread about an author that was a professor at Oxford.
You remind a lot of a Bulldog that I've met before. He wasn't a professor though. He was a trauma surgeon, and a poor farm boy working on a paving crew, and a couple of other things.Hemingway was a great short story writer but his novels are lackluster. Tolkien invented the genre of high fantasy.