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Hello all, I am entirely ignorant about Italian makers other than the common knowledge makers. After several frustrating hours of research coming up with a dead end, although I enjoy a little mystery, I would love to know atleast something about it. It's named "Manhattan" and states it's made in Italy. I wondered if any of you could provide any insight on this pipe and it's logo. All speculation much appreciated 😁.
 

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Sep 13, 2024
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Manhattan is too common a name. If you search ebay and sold listings you will see a variety of pipes of unknown origin as well as a ceramic pipe made in Netherlands all with Manhattan name. See also:


You will have to research if that target symbol on the stem was one of their marks.
That's exactly why I've asked, Manhattan is very vague. No it matches no known marks from that maker, not does that maker refer to any Italian produced pipes etc. The more I look the more a Lorenzo on behalf of someone else (Lloyds etc) seems probable.

Thanks for the insights.
 

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Hillcrest

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That's exactly why I've asked, Manhattan is very vague. No it matches no known marks from that maker, not does that maker refer to any Italian produced pipes etc. The more I look the more a Lorenzo on behalf of someone else (Lloyds etc) seems probable.

Thanks for the insights.
I agree that its beautifully well made but perhaps we need more information. How did you acquire it ? What did seller say ? etc ... It could be any one of the italian manufacturers who make for other companies ... just some thoughts ...
 
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Sep 13, 2024
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I agree that its beautifully well made but perhaps we need more information. How did you acquire it ? What did seller say ? etc ... It could be any one of the italian manufacturers who make for other companies ... just some thoughts ...
I agree, the look of it caught my eye, it seemed well proportioned and elegant, it was an eBay purchase in the UK. The seller listed it as a vintage pipe marked "Manhattan" Made in Italy and "Ripple grain" with a vulcanite stem, but some research on Pipedia suggested it's not
that brand due to the logo, shape and being Italian made. I'd agree that it's most likely made for another company by an Italian manufacturer. Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
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19,269
Connecticut, USA
I agree, the look of it caught my eye, it seemed well proportioned and elegant, it was an eBay purchase in the UK. The seller listed it as a vintage pipe marked "Manhattan" Made in Italy and "Ripple grain" with a vulcanite stem, but some research on Pipedia suggested it's not
that brand due to the logo, shape and being Italian made. I'd agree that it's most likely made for another company by an Italian manufacturer. Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated.
Well, with that information and specifically the mention of 'Ripple Grain" and the Target logo ... I think you are correct. Look at Pipedia's lorenzo page ... specifically the Lloyds ripple grain with the Target logo made by Lorenzo ... looks alot like your pipe... I don't know what Lloyds is though ... you can research that. I think you've got it.

 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
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Connecticut, USA
An afterthought, it looks like Lloyd's was a 'second' or sub-brand of Comoy's. Lorenzo made pipes for the Lloyds line. You have a similar pipe. So an italian pipe made for a French company sold in England. I think you hit the tri-fecta ! If it is a Comoy's sub-brand it should smoke very, very well. They are generally excellent pipes. So are Lorenzo's although I only have a tiny Opera pipe by Lorenzo. Lorenzo's were made in Naples but I believe are now made elsewhere in Italy and they have a company in Albania to take advantage of Albanian briar. Nice piece of history and an enjoyable mystery ! Enjoy it !
 
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