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andrew369

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 21, 2013
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Hey I am quite a new smoker only been using a pipe for a about a month or so, but I am still getting very little taste out of it. I have followed every bit of advice from using cobs and stronger tobacco. I am using a balkan blend described as having a "very full" taste but am still hardly getting anything. I know it isn't the tobacco as people who have tried my pipe when smoking around them always comment on the strong flavour. Is it possible that there is something wrong with my taste/smell that I just can't pick up on tobacco?

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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Andrew, if you are not preparing, packing, or smoking properly, yes it can be very difficult to get flavor from your pipe. If the tobacco is too wet or too dry, if you smoke the bowl way too hot, flavors will not come through. I think anyone who has good techniques will be able to taste their tobacco.

 

andrew369

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 21, 2013
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Thanks for the replies cigrmaster and roth, as a noob I admit I am not the best at packing or smoking cadence but that doesn't explain how anyone who tries my pipe is instantly able to taste it and describe the flavours they are gettting.

 

spartan

Lifer
Aug 14, 2011
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I don't care how you pack a pipe... if you can't taste a full balkan blend... get your nose checked.
Kinda hard to miss that.
Maybe switch over to some Virginias? McClelland 5100 otta taste/smell real nice for ya.
Or get your hands on some Penzance, Escudo, Sam Gawith Full Viginia Flake?
Beat around the bush a little before you give up.
Try and get to a local B&M store to see if you can talk to the guy in person and try some cool stuff. :puffy:

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
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Northern New Jersey
That's why I recommend beginning pipers to clench their pipes. Pretty soon their smoking cadence will slow down to match their breathing cadence, and they'll learn how subtle the gentle art of pipe smoking is. What you're after is a barely smouldering ember, from which you'll occasionally take small sips, snorking the smoke to maximize taste. An added advantage to clenching is that when the pipe is out of sight, it'll be out of mind. Mindless smoking produces transcendent smoking. Focusing too intently, especially when your first starting out, steepens the learning curve. It's anti-intuitive, but many things in life are, including pipe smoking. Also, dry the tobacco down to maximize flavor, lest steam is produced. And pack not too tight and not too loose.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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You will also get more flavor by releasing the smoke through your nose quite often. With any type of tasting the nose is important. If you have any kind of sinus issues, tasting will be difficult. You may want to grab a spay bottle of saline solution and flush your nose a few times before smoking.

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
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I know I mentioned this to you earlier Andy, but I'd get a nice Cuban if I were you, no packing or messing around required, just light her up and smoke.

 

erichbaumer

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 4, 2012
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People who try it haven't become accustomed to it, which your tastebuds have. Next time you light up, pay attention to how much you taste in the first two or three puffs on the charring light. You may not remember later, but you should at least be tasting it there, since the tobacco is at a low temp and you have a fresh palate. The key, as Kashmir said, is maintaining a lower burning temperature so that effect continues throughout. And I've been both drying and clenching recently due to advice on other posts, with great results.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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tonguebitepipecleaner, while Cuban cigars are great, a good one will cost you 7-10 bucks which is the price of a tin of tobacco. You can get a good 12-15 smokes out of one tin so price wise pipe tobacco is the most economical way to enjoy tobacco. Plus you will need to age that Cuban cigar a minimum of 5 years to begin to get the best flavors from it. There are tons of blends out there that are great fresh.

 

kris

Can't Leave
Sep 16, 2012
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OP. If you're newb your pipe may not be broken in yet.
It can take quite a few smokes to get thet girl to behave like she should... ;)

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
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tonguebitepipecleaner, while Cuban cigars are great, a good one will cost you 7-10 bucks which is the price of a tin of tobacco. You can get a good 12-15 smokes out of one tin so price wise pipe tobacco is the most economical way to enjoy tobacco. Plus you will need to age that Cuban cigar a minimum of 5 years to begin to get the best flavors from it. There are tons of blends out there that are great fresh.
I get where you're coming from, I'm just recommending it because if it's something to do with pipe technique, this kind of rules that out, plus if it's a small Partagas I don't think it'll need any aging to taste sweet for the purpose at hand. I know pipe tobacco is more economical (here in Ireland not so much as a 50gm tin costs 25euro and a cuban cigar costs 11euro), but if he buys a 50gm tin and smokes a bowl and still has these doubts, he now has a 50gm tin to smoke his way through.

 

paintedklown

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 21, 2013
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Please pardon my ignorance here guys, but what do you mean by "clench the bowl"?
Also, is there a "timing" to the rhythm of pipe smoking? For example, with cigars, it is suggested to take a draw once every 30-45 seconds. Is there a similar "rule" you can follow with pipe smoking?
OP, I am not trying to hijack your thread, and I apologize if it appears that way, however I suffer from severe incorrect pacing and experience tongue bite nearly every bowl. In fact, I have sort of grown used to the feeling of having a raw tongue.
Unlike OP, I DO taste the tobacco, especially with the first few puffs...and oh man are they GOOD, like REALLY good. The problem I am having is that after those first few puffs, that delicious flavor seems to grow weak, with it only popping back up every so often during the bowl.
Any advice regarding this would be greatly appreciated. I am embarrassed to even have to ask these questions, but I sincerely find myself enjoying pipe smoking MUCH more than I ever imagined I would. I am sure that if I were perfect my smoking technique, then that enjoyment would be even greater. At that point it will be time for me to stop buying OTC blends, and get some quality tinned tobacco. :)

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
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Well, this is a controversial topic, but for me I couldn't imagine smoking a pipe without clenching. Old school pipe smokers all clenched. You see this in old movies, and news clips from the era. Piping was a hands free operation. Men would pipe whilst typing, writing or reading. Hands free. Piping wasn't a "hobby" -it was a life style. Many men smoked from dawn to dusk and lived lives significantly longer than many do today.
Basically, after the first charing light and dicking around with the tamper a bit, the first and final light is lit. The pipe stays in the mouth more or less till it's done. To better grip the stem, and prevent chatter or tooth marks I use a bit protector. Not those big ugly rubber ones from China. Instead I cut my own thin rings out of surgical Tygon tubing. These little rings slide on the bit just behind the button, as your facing the opening. After piping and cleaning they slide off before the pipe is racked. Otherwise these things promote stem oxidation on vulcanite.
When you clench, your piping cadence develops naturally with your breath. You then sip for flavor. An added bonus is the pipe rarely goes out. Another bonus to clenching is that piping then becomes mindless, in the Zen sense of the word. And, for me, the less thought put into a smoke, why the more transcendent the smoke.
Yes indeedy, piping sure teaches a hell of a lot more than just how to smoke a pipe. I think clenching, snorking, and gently sipping to maintain a barely burning smoulder is key! And I'd venture a guess that clenchers have a far shorter learning curve than hand holders. And that's why I recommend it for beginners. When I see pipers billowing great clouds of smoke, like a locomotive, why I know their bowls are way too hot. And the gentle tobacco oils are being vaporized before the piper is able to taste them.
At least that how I see it.

 

loneredtree

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May 27, 2011
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I do hesitate to say this as I will catch some grief. But, Painted you may be getting the raw mouth from smoking OTC blends. They tend to be more moist and have humidity producing chemicals that bother my mouth. If you have a B & M that you can go to, Get some house blends of non aromatic tobaccos. Or, order some samples from our advertisers. That may help.
Happy puffing.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
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Northern New Jersey
Put it this way, you know those first few puffs at the beginning of the bowl that you mentioned were divine, but soon dissipated as the bowl progressed? Well, they shouldn't. The entire bowl should taste as fine as those first few puffs. When you clench the pipe, what happens is you become attuned or in tune with your pipe. It becomes physically part of you. An appendage if you will. You'll be less likely to heat up the bowl and more apt to delve into the nuances of the blend. An added benefit is your also less apt to experience tongue bite. I shudder at the thought of it. As I've never experienced it in thirty years of daily piping. I'm pain averse, and if piping involved pain I'd drop it in a second. Pain is your body's way of telling you something is wrong. For God's sake if your experiencing pain while piping stop immediately. The best advise would be to seek council: Go hang out with other more experienced pipers and see how they do it. I don't believe in YouTube videos and books for learning how to pipe. I know a lot of folks will argue against me, but that's my story and I'm sticking with it. LOL.

 

instymp

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Jul 30, 2012
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CigarMaster, if you can get Cubanos for that price, I would buy them from you in a heartbeat....If it were legal. :lol:
I haven't seen them that cheap in the Islands or Europe. And I do think that they are not worth 2 -3 times more than others from Central America, Tounge.

 

instymp

Lifer
Jul 30, 2012
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CigarMaster, if you can get Cubanos for that price, I would buy them from you in a heartbeat....If it were legal. :lol:
I haven't seen them that cheap in the Islands or Europe. And I do think that they are worth 2 -3 times more than others from Central America, Tounge.

 

redbeard

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 2, 2013
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Not sure if this has been suggested... But maybe you have tounge bite? That could affect the taste

 

andrew369

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 21, 2013
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Doubt it redbeard, I have never gotten any real pain on my tongue, it does feel a bit rough but doesn't look strange or have any soreness. Everything else tastes ok too. I'm lucky that I seem to be pretty tolerant against tongue bite despite my noobness.

 
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