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workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
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The Faroe Islands
That's likely down to those brave/crazy souls abseiling down sheer cliff faces just so they can have a fried egg with their bacon. I reckon the birds have finally wised up & gone elsewhere :LOL:

Regards,

Jay.
If that is the case, we'll find them. Someone is bound to notice a sudden influx of a million seabirds who don't speak the local language.
 
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gubbyduffer

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May 25, 2021
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Peebles, Scottish Borders
I am concerned about the effect climate change may have upon the elephants supporting the Earth. Resultant heat and potential burning on elephants backs may result in catastrophe for human kind. Severe tilting, and people sliding off the edge appear to be very real threats.
The liars at NASA and their flock of sheeple shouldne informed of the thoroughly researched work of Terry Pratchett. His literature has guided me to a reasoned opinion on the geography of Earth. People also need to waken up to the apocalypse which may ensue as plastic in our oceans adversely affects the turtle supporting the elephants.
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canucklehead

Lifer
Aug 1, 2018
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Alberta
I am concerned about the effect climate change may have upon the elephants supporting the Earth. Resultant heat and potential burning on elephants backs may result in catastrophe for human kind. Severe tilting, and people sliding off the edge appear to be very real threats.
The liars at NASA and their flock of sheeple shouldne informed of the thoroughly researched work of Terry Pratchett. His literature has guided me to a reasoned opinion on the geography of Earth. People also need to waken up to the apocalypse which may ensue as plastic in our oceans adversely affects the turtle supporting the elephants.
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bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
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RTP, NC. USA
To begin with, the earth's overall climate is literally a hot mess to deal with. No one snapshot nor any set of studies and definitively provide us the a specific answer to what looks to be a moving target when it comes to the question of what are the impacts people are having on the earth's climate.

However, a much clearer answer is available to the question, "What impact are people having on the air we breath, the water we drink, and the toxins we are putting into the environment?"

I believe responding to the more immediate environmental questions that I just stated would most likely make the question of impacting the climate a moot point.

For the life of me I am not sure why any one would argue that the are in favor of more environmental pollution.
Honestly, what you are indicating is underdeveloped countries issue. US is no where near the top as far as those countries doing most harm. I think it's always good idea to have a clean living, environmentally, but we are not the nation causing crap load of issues.

Even France and Germany have worse air quality than we do. Yet they are screaming for our money. BRICKS nations are shitting pollution from all their orifices, and asking for equal treatment.

We can scrap all these green energy ideas and still come out squeaky clean.

So why such a concern?
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,202
41,439
RTP, NC. USA
Weather has been milder in NC. I do hear other places are hotter. But I really think it's not indicating anything specific. Earth goes through cycle. With or without our help. As to how soon and what type of more definite change, only earth knows. All these so called scientists.. They can't even predict tomorrow's weather half of the time. Do you think I'll believe them puking threats about earth getting too warm due to human fault? Soon they will be saying cause of dinosaurs' extinction was due to too much methane from their fart.
 
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gubbyduffer

Can't Leave
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Weather has been milder in NC. I do hear other places are hotter. But I really think it's not indicating anything specific. Earth goes through cycle. With or without our help. As to how soon and what type of more definite change, only earth knows. All these so called scientists.. They can't even predict tomorrow's weather half of the time. Do you think I'll believe them puking threats about earth getting too warm due to human fault? Soon they will be saying cause of dinosaurs' extinction was due to too much methane from their fart.
Actually weather prediction has never been better, especially 24 hours in advance. Living in Scotland where weather is extremely variable, and being a mountaineer I follow various mountain weather forecasts. They are generally very good a few days in advance. Weather forecasts have improved hugely in the last 20 years. Meteorology is a complex science and always developing. What do you mean by 'so called scientists?' They ARE scientists. This saying pisses me off. If scientists are not actually scientists then who is? I am sorry, but writing off the consensus on climate change because your local news station can't say whether you will miss a shower or not is complete idiocy. If we let the plugged in, internet saturated brainwashed masses decided what denotes science, then the discussion won't be whether farts caused the demise of the dinosaurs, but rather whether dinosaurs actually existed at all, or whether the Earth old enough or the right shape to have allowed them to exist.
Sadly in this day and age this dude is too many peoples idea of a scientist.
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bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,202
41,439
RTP, NC. USA
Actually weather prediction has never been better, especially 24 hours in advance. Living in Scotland where weather is extremely variable, and being a mountaineer I follow various mountain weather forecasts. They are generally very good a few days in advance. Meteorology is a complex science and always developing. What do you mean by 'so called scientists?' They ARE scientists. This saying pisses me off. If scientists are not actually scientists then who is? If we let the plugged in, internet saturated brainwashed masses decided what denotes science, then the discussion won't be whether farts caused the demise of the dinosaurs, but rather whether dinosaurs actually existed at all, or whether the Earth old enough or the right shape to have allowed them to exist.
Sadly in this day and age this dude is too many peoples idea of a scientist.
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So called scientists are political tools of those who are willing to pay them. So far, COVID has proven all those preventions have been mostly unnecessary.

It might have been "scientists" meant something when they were willing to risk their lives to say something. But now? They will distort data to gain their precious grant money. Those who doesn't never get to be heard.

Screw God. He hasn't done anything to help us.

Those who blindly believe everything fed to them piss me off.
 

VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
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Tasmania, Australia
My biggest concern with all this "Climate Change" is every supporting document in favour sights a "MODEL". Now we all know that these models are just glorified spreadsheets that require data and then some sort of extrapolator that arrives at a future number, thus it's subjective. The person putting in the multiplier gets to control the outcomes and who pays the data entry person controls the outcomes. But what about the raw data you say..........well it's now been proven that many of the worlds meteorological services are rounding or manipulating data to suit the narrative (I'll attach a document that highlights how rotten to the core The Australian BOM is and how they are now under scrutiny for manipulating data)
http://www.bom.gov.au/foi/release/FOI30-6147_DocSet_ForRelease_RR.pdf.

The second problem I have is where the data comes from. These weather stations where once located in field surrounded by grass, trees and had open access to the winds that blew on any given day. This is Observatory Hill in Sydney in the early days, This is our largest capital city.
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This is now Observatory Hill below
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As you can clearly see it is now surrounded by what has become a very large city which has concrete, bitumen, iron and tile roofs and steel buildings. All these new structures contribute to making a heat sink which to everyone but the blindest must surely elevate temperature readings, air quality et al.

Our climate has been changing and will continue to do so and to believe that the data we are being fed is accurate and needs to be believed because it's in a "model" beggars belief. When I was at school we were preparing for a mini ice age which never came, now we are near boiling point and all about to perish like frogs in hot water. They will cite loss of species and changing ecosystems as the litmus test but fail to acknowledge that more species have been lost when the dinosaurs ceased to exist than now.

The amazon is being cleared but what for. I'll tell you what for..............to grow Soya Beans and Corn, one is to satisfy the vegans, the other to satisfy the need for methanol production and the very seeds that are used are proprietary and genetically modified (so once again the corporate giants get fat at the expense of the environment). All this whilst the vegans and the green movement propels itself forward and the very things things they need to make their case compelling are the very things that are driving the destruction of Mother Nature. Solar is the next godsend but have you ever seen the holes in the ground, the diesel that is burnt to transport the ore, the coal that is burnt to refine these raw products, all in the name of arresting climate change.

Lastly the attack on farmers and their products will cause the world to pay a heavy price. There are very few industries that provide primary products. These industries are the only ones that "create" and in this case feed the world.

If Agriculture stopped tomorrow globally these are the stats:
*Perishables like milk, meat, seafood and fresh fruit and vegetables would all be consumed with in 5 days
*Tinned food would all be gone in 15 days
*Staples like rice/wheat/corn/skim milk powder/and dehydrated protein would all run out in 80 odd days
This represents the worlds critical food supply.........80 to 90 days and you're all out of luck. Yet we see the worlds governments hell bent on reducing farming all because of a climate change agenda, you can't eat solar panels.

Rant is over as I could go on for days about how the media and government institutions are pushing us to a precipice and largely the population is blindly staring at their phone and walking over the edge.
Apologies in advance if I piss anyone off for this post.
 
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