Is Gawith and Hoggarth/ Sam Gawith the new Esoterica?

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Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
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Louisiana (Chocolate) Flake is quite an inspired creation; chocolate and perique really works well. I have some to hand, dip into it occasionally if I'm feeling glum, cheers me up.
 
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runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
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Louisiana (Chocolate) Flake is quite an inspired creation; chocolate and perique really works well. I have some to hand, dip into it occasionally if I'm feeling glum, cheers me up.
Interesting. This is one of my favorite G&H blends, but since I don't normally read tobacco reviews, and I never tasted chocolate in it, I was kind of stunned when I looked up the reviews and saw 'cocoa/chocolate flavoring'. I read more of the reviews and saw where some people said the Lakeland or baby powder flavor was way over the top, covering the tobacco flavor. I'm still scratching my head, as I always find the VA to be very evident and fresh, with not so much perique and almost zero Lakeland or other flavors.

I guess it doesn't matter if I'm wrong, as long I enjoy it - which I have been many years.
 
Jun 9, 2018
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I'm not sure that Esoterica is only apparently in short supply - certainly, in the UK, their blends only seem to be available in fits and starts, although some think that the Chinese are getting first dibs on their popular blends. All of them go out of stock fairly regularly; some are only in stock for a day at most and then gone again for months.

The Gawiths, rather more constant in availability.
I've noticed an alert after about an hour and it was all gone by then. Can't remember which blend but it was but it would've been either Medium Flake or Brown Flake. Those 2 and Rich Dark Flake & Gold Leaf R/R are the ones that are a nightmare to get hold of. The other Germain's blends (especially the ones with Latakia in) are much easier to get hold of.

Fucking shame I don't like Latakia, isn't it? Lol💀
 

Sig

Lifer
Jul 18, 2023
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Interesting. This is one of my favorite G&H blends, but since I don't normally read tobacco reviews, and I never tasted chocolate in it, I was kind of stunned when I looked up the reviews and saw 'cocoa/chocolate flavoring'. I read more of the reviews and saw where some people said the Lakeland or baby powder flavor was way over the top, covering the tobacco flavor. I'm still scratching my head, as I always find the VA to be very evident and fresh, with not so much perique and almost zero Lakeland or other flavors.

I guess it doesn't matter if I'm wrong, as long I enjoy it - which I have been many years.
Same with Bob's Chocolate Flake for me. It's one of my favorite blends, but I'm not sure I would pick out the chocolate without knowing.
I get the Virginias, the Burley, a bit of the Latakia, and definitely can taste the sause. But tasting chocolate, maybe. Over the years I've talked myself into tasting dark coco...possibly. I get more vanilla and what I call roasted nuts.
Either way, it's one I refuse to live without.
 

runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,451
3,312
Washington State
Same with Bob's Chocolate Flake for me. It's one of my favorite blends, but I'm not sure I would pick out the chocolate without knowing.
I get the Virginias, the Burley, a bit of the Latakia, and definitely can taste the sause. But tasting chocolate, maybe. Over the years I've talked myself into tasting dark coco...possibly. I get more vanilla and what I call roasted nuts.
Either way, it's one I refuse to live without.
I've only used Bob's Chocolate for blending. There was a period where it was hard to get, so I tried Cherry Cream and liked it better. It's been years - I can't remember if I actually tasted the chocolate.

But what a variety they provide. There really should be something for everyone.
 
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WerewolfOfLondon

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Jun 8, 2023
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Interesting. This is one of my favorite G&H blends, but since I don't normally read tobacco reviews, and I never tasted chocolate in it, I was kind of stunned when I looked up the reviews and saw 'cocoa/chocolate flavoring'. I read more of the reviews and saw where some people said the Lakeland or baby powder flavor was way over the top, covering the tobacco flavor. I'm still scratching my head, as I always find the VA to be very evident and fresh, with not so much perique and almost zero Lakeland or other flavors.

I guess it doesn't matter if I'm wrong, as long I enjoy it - which I have been many years.
Also one of my fav GH blends. I'd concur that the perique is not top heavy (which is why I like it). The chocolate isn't obvious either, when you smoke it. But take a good sniff of the jar, you should be able to easily detect the chocolate. You may then get hints of it when you smoke it, albeit only very subtle hints.
 

elvishrunes

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2017
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Coincidentally, I went to buy some pipe cleaners at my local B/M today, and he usually just has over the counter aros mostly, and he has 5 Gawiths. FVF, 1792, and three Englishes, but not Commonwealth. He also has lots of Mac Barens.

Red Smoke on Danforth Avenue for anyone in Toronto or visiting.
 
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Jun 6, 2025
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Same with Bob's Chocolate Flake for me. It's one of my favorite blends, but I'm not sure I would pick out the chocolate without knowing.
I get the Virginias, the Burley, a bit of the Latakia, and definitely can taste the sause. But tasting chocolate, maybe. Over the years I've talked myself into tasting dark coco...possibly. I get more vanilla and what I call roasted nuts.
Either way, it's one I refuse to live without.
this is a hard subject, i have had the bobs chocolate flake, and the sam G chocolate flake. They were included in a gift from a member on the old pipes forum. oh back in 2003 i think.

and entire unopened tin of the sam g chocolate flake. and a quart ziplock bag of what turned out to be a mix of bobs chocolate flake and sam g chocolate flake. I never could tell them apart by taste..

But the chocolate was there. But the thing is, its not and american chocolate candy like a tootsie roll pop.. its best described as "stick you nose in a packet of instant cocoa mix, and sniff"

almost felt like getting a full 8oz box of chocolate from smoking pipes, but i didnt,,, and i have the 10% coupon, and mars cigars has it regular prcie about 10$ cheaper then smokingpipes does..
 
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