Is Cavendish Tobacco Usually Damp?

[Scotty Piper]

I ordered black cherry cavendish and apricot and cream cavendish from Cornell & Diehl, and they both arrived feeling not just moist but actually damp. It also sizzles when it smokes. It's been a while since I've had cavendish, is that normal? I've tried leaving it out for some time to dry it out, but it still sizzles.

 

[Briarcutter]

It's not the tobacco itself,it's what they goop on the tobacco that's giving you problems. Let it dry out some but depending on the humectant they used and the amount, it could take days

 

[proteus]

Specifically for your batch its possible its a bad tin. SP.com will make it right.

As for generally Cavendish can be unflavored untopped uncased or cased or topped or flavored. Its a process tobacco goes through and can be virginia Cavendish, burley Cavendish or another tobacco. So depending upon the process it can be high humidity or drier.

Only the blender knows what type of Cav is used unless its divulged no one knows.

 

[Scotty Piper]

Specifically for your batch its possible its a bad tin. SP.com will make it right.

As for generally Cavendish can be unflavored untopped uncased or cased or topped or flavored. Its a process tobacco goes through and can be virginia Cavendish, burley Cavendish or another tobacco. So depending upon the process it can be high humidity or drier.

Only the blender knows what type of Cav is used unless its divulged no one knows.

I bought it bulk, it's in a zip bag

 

[proteus]

I bought it bulk, it's in a zip bag

Id say its probably overly humidified. Let it stand open for a week. Those aromatics are likely cased and have PG so that might not make a difference. Pack looser. Try that.

 

[anotherbob]

Honestly sounds pretty typical for that style of blend. As people have stated Cavendish is a process. Basically the simple version of the process is that the sugars in the tobacco either natural occurring or added (rum, maple syrup, or something similar) are caramelized with steam and pressure. Yeah compared to other types of tobacco it will do all the things you've described. If you dry it out often the tobacco will be sticky and burn just like you described. Honestly it sounds like you got what you paid for.
Fun note it's also loses some of the natural oils and nicotine to some amount. Not only does it add a specific flavor profile but also volume and thickness to the smoke, but it also is more readily ready to absorb added flavors or toppings. It's a very key ingredient to modern goopy aromatics. If you add flavor to more traditionally treated leaf the end result is often more tobacco forward and also fades with age much more readily.
Or in other words totally typical and expected.

 

[Scotty Piper]

Thank you, you've all been helpful!

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Yes.

 

[bullet08]

Dry it.

 

[anotherbob]

Thank you, you've all been helpful!

don't tell too many people.

 

[Sigmund]

Yep, spread it out on a tray and check it on occasion.
It might take half a day or even longer. It depends on the room humidity and temp.
In a heated room Ive done it for 24 hours and it worked well.
I wouldnt make it bone dry,
It makes the room smell good!

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

Last year my sister on the West coast (Pacific Ocean is across the road from her house) sent me what appears to be a sampler pack of mainly cavendish tobacco blends. So far, each and every one of them when opened has been found to be too damp with goop to light without a blowtorch, or to stay lit for more than a puff, maybe two. The blend (a Vanilla Custard) I've been going through lately has been left open for two months now, and is still damp as hell.

 

[mortonbriar]

If you cant convince it to dry, another way to enjoy that type of blend is to water it down with a plain virginia, burley or both. Even a small pinch of your cherry or apricot blend mixed into 50g of tobacco will be noticeable in the smoke, or you can go 50:50, or anything in between...

 

[xrundog]

My experience is that most aromatics are like that. The important thing isn’t how moist it is, but how well it burns. You’ll taste the casing more if it’s moist. So if it burns okay just keep smoking it.

 

[SpuddsBuckley]

Rattray's Black Virginia is a solid black cavendish without all the goopy flavoring that typically comes with it.

 

[Briarcutter]

A while back I purchased a pound of Sutliff "Green River" cavendish,what ever that means Anyway, it wasn't flavored, supposed to be straight cav. It's pretty good, not goopy and burns we!!.

 

[anotherbob]

A while back I purchased a pound of Sutliff "Green River" cavendish,what ever that means Anyway, it wasn't flavored, supposed to be straight cav. It's pretty good, not goopy and burns we!!.

Green River is a tobacco growing area somewhere in the South Eastern part of the U.S.A. and it's famous for I think it's burly but it's a famous tobacco region.

 

[Briarcutter]

Green River is a tobacco growing area somewhere in the South Eastern part of the U.S.A. and it's famous for I think it's burly but it's a famous tobacco region.

Thank you. I figured it was something like that, hopefully it's truly from that region and not just a "label" attached to the product as a selling point. It's pretty good straight but I think it's strong point is as a mixer. Adds a fullness and mellows tobacco and adds a bit of sweetness. It seems like a pretty clean tobacco,not at all gooped.

 

[anotherbob]

Thank you. I figured it was something like that, hopefully it's truly from that region and not just a "label" attached to the product as a selling point.

I am pretty sure it should say something about that in the description. I think it's more likely totally legit, seems to me that just labeling a blend to imply a tobacco type it doesn't have would hold more down sides then benefits. But I can't say for certain. For one it's not super rare or expensive and it's a name that only people who are tobacco nerds would understand the value of.

It's pretty good straight but I think it's strong point is as a mixer. Adds a fullness and mellows tobacco and adds a bit of sweetness. It seems like a pretty clean tobacco,not at all gooped.

I think it was marketed more as a blender. And that description is basically how I've seen cav explained by professional blenders. Adds body and sweetness. Unsweetened should be less goopy. Also the issue I have with blends with high percentages of cav is that I don't really feel the nicotine. Had one full cav blend that tasted amazing but I could actually feel the urge for more nicotine while smoking it. I did however add it to other blends especially ones with more neutral flavors profiles and thought the effect was very pleasant. It was Drew Estates Cav blend.

 

[tartanphantom]

I must be developing mild dyslexia.

Every time I see the title of this thread appear in the "New Posts" category, I always mis-read it as:

"Is Cavendish Tobacco Usually a Dump?"

To which, my natural-impulse response to that question, is: "It depends."