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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Given what I see tins selling for with a bit of age on them up to 10x or more I think tobacco may be a decent investment
As investments go, it's a speculative one. But in a world where totally made up currencies can become a favorite of so called Wall Street eiltes - otherwise known as well tailored grifters and con artists - why not a rusty tin of vintage "Whatsis"?
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Given what I see tins selling for with a bit of age on them up to 10x or more I think tobacco may be a decent investment
nope terrible investment. To be honest cellaring is a kind of a trend. Not saying that people won't continue to do it, but it is approaching peak saturation in my opinion. The idea of aging pipe tobacco has been around probably for longer then we think but as far as it being what pipe smokers do that's a new thing. And frankly I don't think it will last. Not in a way that makes buying up pipe tobacco a sensible investment.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,662
31,240
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
I wouldn't look at tobacco as an investment. Too many potential issues with government interference with sales, shipping, and such. Build your cellar for stuff you like to smoke.
government interference would probably be the best thing for this scheme. That might actually make it a good investment.
 
Are the sellers getting their asking price? You're a smoker so, not risk averse, go for it if you have the moneys to lose. I much prefer investing my hard earned moneys in less risky ventures.
Ok - so picture this scenario - I buy 5 grand in tins of fine tobacco that i have observed selling for >2x original cost with >2 years age on them on this site. Then I wait a few years and list them for 2x. They sell I double my $ (tax free btw) and I smile. They don't sell and I have a cellar full of aged fine tobacco and I still have a smile on my face ;) - where's the risk? sorry couldn't resist
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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18,324
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
where's the risk?
You failed to factor in the possibility of your early demise or, an illness which would prohibit your smoking your stash. The loss wouldn't be yours of course. Only your heirs would be out a bit of moneys. There's no mention of something where the moneys tied up in tobacco become needed for a catastrophe of some sort, illness, natural disaster, etc. But, since you are not risk averse there is no need to consider the risk. Just spend, sorry, invest what you will and see what arises. And, there are your risks, many of them. Ignore at your peril but, you should consider them at least.

There's more. Tax free? Only as long as you aren't found out. Someone, family or friend, board member could rat you out. There is always risk. One should at least know them and acknowledge them so as to weigh risk v. reward.

And, there you are, your required due diligence all set out, tidy and neat, for you to consider. Scenarios are a fun mental activity but, don't simply consider "best possible" if you value your funds.
 

Singularis

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 11, 2019
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Wausau, Wis
ROI might work out for you, but as @warren points out, you could die early, or be physically unable to smoke for whatever reason. For myself, I have about $700 worth of tobacco cellared, but a little less than $500 in sealed tins. I could probably get half of that back with my 3 tins (250g total) of McClelland that I bought just as they were going out of business, but I also want to smoke it. If I suddenly keeled over, my wife would thankfully not have too much unused "investment" on her hands, but between that and my pipes, she may not mind having the $1000+ back for more useful things. Maybe she could sell it as a lot to one of you codgers at a deep discount. Who knows.
 
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