The pipe only weighed 18 grams and the walls are thin. Is there any way that pipe isn't a hot smoker? Do people just buy them for the year and don't care how the pipe might smoke?
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It's a Group 1. Quite scarce. (The thick-looking stem and oversize-looking dot are because the stummel is tiny. Notice how the stamping also looks too big and barely fits the shank.)
PS --- My apologies for not being able to convince Chance to up his photo game as promised. He sat at the same computer I'm using now several months ago and I walked him through the what & how of it, also camera usage and lighting, but to no avail.
PS --- My apologies for not being able to convince Chance to up his photo game as promised. He sat at the same computer I'm using now several months ago and I walked him through the what & how of it, also camera usage and lighting, but to no avail.
Ahh, I missed that it was a group 1. That makes perfect sense. Boy! Quite a price for a tiny pipe!
Group 1 pipes are rare. If condition is very good they would be desirable to a serious Dunhill collector, or a Dunhill collector who prefers smaller bowls.
It's not the size or the girth, Harris, so you needn't worry about it.
It's not the size or the girth, Harris, so you needn't worry about it.
Jesse, yeah ok, lol. There is no way that pipe won't smoke hotter than the sun. I bet it never gets smoked.
This tiny Dunhill is a pipe I would love to own and smoke. 1948! and apparently super condition. Fun! As a selfchosen outdoorsmoker I normally smoke ' less than a bowl' and in my experience, not all tobaccos benefit from bigger bowls or thicker walls, with regard to coolness and taste. Never 'burned through' a pipe bowl for 30 years. Congrats to the topbidder!
No problem. You travel a lot for work, right? Let me know if you're ever in or near KC, and we'll git 'er done.
In fact, the St. Louis show is coming up. Take an extra day, go a few hours east on your way home, and we can do some shop stuff on top of the photomatogramaphy. :lol:
I was watching this auction just for shits and giggles and it skyrocketed 3 grand in the last second or so. The listing was interesting as I had never heard of that grade Dunhill. How does that seller get so many seemingly high quality British pipes?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGLISH-ESTATE-PIPE-DUNHILL-DR-G-ROOT-1982-UNSMOKED/362216490884?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGLISH-ESTATE-PIPE-DUNHILL-DR-G-ROOT-1982-UNSMOKED/362216490884?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
An unsmoked "high letter" DR that actually IS a decent straight grain is many a Dunhill Collectors' holy grail. Chinese or Russian plutocrat money does the rest.
As for how Gary scores such nice collections from time to time, it's all the legwork that goes into building a reseller network in its first ten years or so. (Barry Levin was one of my closest friends back in the day, and I saw what went into it. Not for the lazy: 10-12 hr days, 7 days a week, and that DIDN'T include the clean up work---he outsourced that)
As for how Gary scores such nice collections from time to time, it's all the legwork that goes into building a reseller network in its first ten years or so. (Barry Levin was one of my closest friends back in the day, and I saw what went into it. Not for the lazy: 10-12 hr days, 7 days a week, and that DIDN'T include the clean up work---he outsourced that)
George, do you know Gary well? I have shied away from his pipes as someone told me he had issues with him.
I do not know him well. We met a handful of times at Chicago some years back and he seemed like a decent sort. There was indeed an "online incident" regarding one of his older pieces in the summer of 2015 that left a lot of collectors unhappy. I pressed him via email to explain his side of the situation and was stiff-armed, though. I haven't spoken to him since.
His son Max Capps (different last name, but biological son) makes up the other half of Gary's eBay business. He does cleanups & etc. Though he "presents" as a laid back Skater Kid :lol: , Max is surprisingly grounded, bright, intent, and likable when you talk to him. Wholly committed to the PipeWorld from what I've seen.
As for avoiding Secondhand Smokes, I don't know how much blow-back Gary experienced from the aforementioned incident, or how he took it if he did. Maybe lessons learned, maybe not, I have no idea.
That said, 99% of the time the "forthcoming" issue only matters when a pipe is unusually rare and/or valuable. Unless what you're looking at falls into that category, how much restoration/repair work has been done isn't nearly as important as whether the work is detectable or not.
Gary and his son are members of the Philly club. I've met both on the occasions where I'm able to attend those meetings. In person, both are very gracious and appear genuine. Max is a little more outgoing than Gary. He's friends with Mark Irwin and they are co-authoring the upcoming book on Peterson pipes. I know Mark very well and if he's associated with Gary in a project of that stature (and with Peterson's blessing), that gives him high marks in my book.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUNHILL-DR-OVERSIZED-BENT-BULLDOG-STRAIGHT-GRAIN-PIPE-UNDER-GRADED-/382358534740?rmvSB=true&nma=true&si=eRjkQZWJwY2FU9JEwSoMi5bi6GE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I was watching that one (2 Star DR). It looks like it needed some additional restoration work, but still went nearly $1k.
I was watching that one (2 Star DR). It looks like it needed some additional restoration work, but still went nearly $1k.
Al, how much work does that pipe need? I would think that for a thousand bucks it would be in better shape?
There's no rewind button on lost material. Meaning what this pipe needs now can't be done.
I don't know if the stem was oxidized to where removing so much was unavoidable, the restorer was heavy handed, or the original Dunhill shaper blew it. Whichever, this is a textbook example of why diamond shank stems are difficult to get right in the first place, and require a lot more monitoring & care (if vulcanite) than normal shapes after the fact. The knife edge IS the profile, and jacking it shows up from a mile away:
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