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pipeanddrum

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Jan 5, 2016
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Can anyone tell me how I can procure Indonesian tobacco online or otherwise?

I'm specifically interested in Demit666 and Kama Sutra. I've found threads here related to these tobaccos but they date back to 2014 and there weren't any posts that clearly outlined how to purchase these blends, unless I missed something. There's mention of someone named Zippo Warung on Facebook but I haven't been able to find this person. Does anyone have any leads? Thanks very much.

 

techie

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Jul 20, 2018
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I don't know how but am curious to know in what way(s) Indonesian tobacco differs from more common tobaccos.

 

techie

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Jul 20, 2018
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Well, I found one review on Demit666 and it is described as unique, with cinnamon & frankincense notes.

 

exbenedict

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Feb 6, 2018
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I'd be interested in a few links if anyone has any as well. Always willing to try something new.

 

molach95

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Dec 19, 2017
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My heart goes out to those people. Such a tragedy.
I have a jar full of cheap OTC dry-cured Dutch cigars of assorted brands. I think they're rolled with Indonesian (Javanese) as well as Brazilian tobacco. I know they mostly have "Sumatra" leaf wrappers, which generally taste quite mild to my unsophisticated palate. They have a particular flavour I find hard to describe, but some of their sweet and nutty/toasty qualities may come from oven curing. If you've ever had a yellow-box Swiss Villiger Export square pressed cigar you'll know what I mean; those have Sumatra wrappers.
Speaking of cigars, I don't know how much the Filipinos use Indonesian tobacco in their own production. They seem to have their own leaves for binder and filler and so on but the two tobacco industries are so closeby I suspect they are in relatively close contact.

 

canadianpuffer

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Oct 8, 2017
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Have you tried Tambolaka? It’s Indonesian and 4nog used to carry it. Might be easier tracking it down. Good luck on your search.

http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/3857/tambolaka-natural-tobaccos-tambolaka-pipe-tobacco

 

artificialme

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Mar 15, 2018
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Finally, someone want to try our local pipe tobacco. Hahaha. It's an honor. Try those links by pylorns, Iwan Wikanta (the owner of putu cowe) is reputable seller in our pipe community.

 

pipeanddrum

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Jan 5, 2016
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@molach - I've tried Filipino cigars and have enjoyed them but it's the frankincense and jasmine notes that I've read in descriptions of the demit666 and kama sutra Indonesian blends respectively that I'm interested in. I did not detect those flavors in the Filipino cigars which I found to be very nutty.
@pylorns - Thanks for the info. Have you heard back from him?
@canadianpuffer - Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into Tambolaka but it's the demit and kama sutra I'm most interested in.
@artificialme - Does Iwan Wikanta ship to the US?

 

mso489

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I enjoyed some Tambolaka, a sample from a member orignally from 4noggins. It is a strong-tobacco adventure, but I handled it with some respect, starting with a small-bowl pipe, to get the feel of it. It was very strong, but nicely balanced and robust in a good way. I'm not sure I'd keep it on hand or in the rotation, but I was glad to try it and smoked it up. Since then, I've gotten into some milder blends and discovered that mild isn't always wimpy. The range of blends is astonishing. I don't think Tambolaka has any flavoring, just its own powerful taste.

 

artificialme

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Mar 15, 2018
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@pipeanddrum : Let me contact him. Maybe tomorrow I'll post it here. Btw, I never had the chance to smoke some tambolaka, but maybe in a near future, I will. Nope, I MUST
@woodsroad : Yeah, there's tsunami in Palu and Donggala in Sulawesi Island. Help coming around like the usual disaster aftermath. But, yes, the people there raid the supermarket and minimart to sustain their family. Apparently, some of them took some item that doesn't related to survival. This is very wrong and I, personally, can't forgive it. The most memorable picture was 2 man, in a motorcycle, took a television from a supermarket. Hell, there's no electricity running there until now :crazy:

 

artificialme

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Mar 15, 2018
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@pipeanddrum: Here's some other Indonesian Pipe Tobacco from another friend of mine. I already ask her and she said, she can ship those to US
Some of her products:

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Gayatri Rajapatni : Light aromatic with burley based. Very strong cocoa notes
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Dwipantara : pure virginia blend. This one is already aged for 10 years (she aged it, not me :mrgreen:)
PS:

Already contacted Mr Iwan and he said that he can't sent his tobacco to another country. By the way, Dhemit666 is his product but kamasutra is blended by RnR Tobacco, Indonesia.

 
I wish more countries would develop their own blends. It kills me to find someone who lives in the farthest reaches of some remote place to only find out that they smoke Captain Black and Dunhill blends. Uggg! If we only had Argentinian tobaccos, Italian Tobaccos, Kilimanjaro Tobaccos, Timbuktu Tobaccos... I love the idea of these Indonesian blends. Good on them. I would love to try these blends.

 

pipeanddrum

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Jan 5, 2016
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@artificialme - Thank you so very much for the information and follow up. Is the friend who sent you the tobacco in your photos on social media?

 

molach95

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Dec 19, 2017
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@Cosmic
The Italians do have their own tobacco, lots of it. They have their own cigar industry for one thing - both Italian Kentucky leaves usually made into cheroots, or something unique grown near Venice they make into Nostrano del Brenta cigars. The trouble is that like coffee, tobacco has been produced by certain key nations, usually linked to Imperial interests.
The Netherlands are the home of the EU's favourite brands of instant coffee, machine made cigars and rolling tobacco - all linked to Dutch imperial and mercantile history. The Spanish have their own cigar industry with their own leaves in the Canary Islands, founded by people that came back from Cuba. The Italians have a very big and quite unique cigar industry too, as we already mentioned, using both home grown and imported tobacco. The Filipinos also have an industry similar to Spain (again founded by those with links to Cuba). Indonesia and Brazil both provide lots of inexpensive tobacco in a similar way to Vietnam supplying the robusta coffee market, as well as prized cigar wrappers. Then there's Cameroon and Malawi in Africa, growing tobacco (often for our pipes e.g. some of the burley in Solani Aged Burley Flake) and harvesting meerschaum (I think in Kenya?) almost like Cote d'Ivoire grows cocoa beans. In addition to the famous Honduras, Dominican Republic and Nicaragua there's unique tobacco, mainly used in cigars that I can think of, coming out of Ecuador, Peru and Mexico. Germany is also a key player in EU tobacco, like the Dutch and the Danish.
The thing is, once you consider there's a strong tobacco industry (blending as well as producing, if not growing) in the Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, the UK and Ireland, it's hard for other countries to compete, especially if these industries were founded off the back of empires and colonialism

 
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