Apparently there is not actually more than corn in Indiana
Indiana Proposes Generational Tobacco Ban
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that might be because proposed could mean as little as someone mentioned it's an option. Could also mean we are going to take it as far as we can. A lot of stuff gets proposed.
Reading the article it's not very far along at all. In fact it's at the discussion stage. And it's about ordering stuff. Which probably means it's more about revenue then it is about prohibition.
Or at least that's my read on it.
It’s en vogue to trash tobacco because the lobbying money just isn’t there anymore. The industry has shrunk that much, it’s an easy target.
Meanwhile it’s non-stop sports- betting and online gambling ads here in Michigan. Cannabis, lottery, sports betting, online gambling, and alcohol industries are booming, replacing the tax revenue from tobacco. All of which I would argue can be just as destructive.
Meanwhile it’s non-stop sports- betting and online gambling ads here in Michigan. Cannabis, lottery, sports betting, online gambling, and alcohol industries are booming, replacing the tax revenue from tobacco. All of which I would argue can be just as destructive.
Yep and there's still an anti smoking lobby, no stigma against accepting money from them. Australia also has a big problem with legal gambling, the government doesn't seem to do anything about it
Which is why it's at the stage it's at. Basically it's at the is this feasible stage. Which means they could really want to do this thing. Most likely it's just a place to start, pick the most extreme edge and work back from there. What would be scary is if this was something they were making big statements about, then it mean they're probably planning on something specific and want people to say at least it ended up being only half as bad. (classic example is propose a tax that's just simply too high, one that no one thinks is o.k. and then "compromise" to the tax they wanted to implement in the first place. Five percent of something seems a lot better after threatening 25 percent.).
And because cigarettes are really unhealthy. There has always been an anti tobacco contingent since day one (at least in the western world). But it really didn't get too bad until cigarettes took over. I always point out how the old guy with the pipe, cigar, or chaw seems as healthy and full of energy as other people their age. Where as the old guy who smokes cigs looks a bit like jerky and has a cough that sounds like death.
So to my mind the remedy is being visible and promoting the joys of tobacco.
Games of skill dude. That's what they call it. That stuff can be more socially destructive. You're not going to blow your kids clothes/college/food money on your cellar.
Also reminds me of how more college teams can play each other and that happens after every stadium has ads for the online gambling apps. Seems suspect to me.
It's only your business if you resolve and promise to refuse all governmental (neighbor's taxes) insurance for smoking related illness, various cancers and heart diseases. But, I bet you won't. Neither would I. It's stupid to refuse "free" moneys from your neighbors.
Well, paying taxes a positive, it means you're making money. But, there are many folks who pay no taxes, some don't make enough and others fully understand the tax codes and take advantage of the exemptions. Then there are those who pass the various taxes on to customers. So, yes, in some shape or form we all contribute to the state.
But, the government payments for my wife's cancer treatment certainly exceeded my annual tax payments. So, my neighbors and others paid the tab. I don't know else collective health care could work except through a redistribution of wealth. Our US government certainly doesn't have any moneys of its own. Well, they do sometimes simple print more.
If we want to go down this road we should do it with every harmful activity. Or even lack of activity, like people that refuse to get any exercise, since that is the single greatest factor in determining overall health.
Should my premium go up 2% this month because I ate 4 bowls of ice cream this week?
I do get your point but I guess where does the line get drawn? Who decides?
You're not supposed to notice double standards and hypocrisy. And it's impolite to call attention to the obesity epidemic causing most of the chronic illness.
Who decides? Your betters...that's really all you need to know.
Isn't there some sitcom you could be watching instead of asking troublesome questions?
Nameless bureaucrats, elected officials, parents, employers, insurance companies, trusted doctors, a whole litanay of folks, beloved and detested. Where you been all these years?
I believe this tactic is called "thesis + antithesis = synthesis." The fact that it has a name indicates how prevalent it is, which is quite scary.
Watch me.
Edit: for the record, I do not have any children.
I forgot, the electorate. The US is rapidly becoming a collectivist state. Seems to be what the voters desire, big, intrusive government. TR really kicked it off and his cousin unarguably carried it to another level entirely. It's what they were elected to do. An apolitical observation; every, regardless of party, president grows government if they want to to get to a second term.
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what about the horses?Watch me.
Edit: for the record, I do not have any children.
True. He's like a child. We set aside cash monthly to pay his expenses (which are surprisingly low for a half-ton herbivorous farm animal), which I do not dip into, no matter how pressing or substantial the TAD urge may be.
No, it's not. Taxation is theft.
This great and honarable government that you love to go on about, hires a certain type of person, gives them a gun and sends them out to steal from their fellow citizens.
It's like your always saying. You can like it or not, but that's the way it is Jack.
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