Indiana Proposes Generational Tobacco Ban
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I'm really hoping the Supreme Court will rule generational bans unconstitutional and put an end to this bullshit once and for all. Arbitrary age discrimination is asinine. What's alarming about this one is how quickly it acts, only six months until they want it in place.
I always have the same thought with this. It's the ole art of political busy work. Essentially doing nothing while looking like you are.
Thanks for posting, I am an Indiana resident and this is the first I have heard of it.
You're welcome. Stuff like this really pisses me off because when it passes in one place there's precedence for it to pass anywhere else. I've noticed a sharp uptick in serious efforts for generational bans after New Zealand passed theirs, even though they repealed it shortly after.
My libertarian mindset always reflexes to a repulsive reaction toward any legislation proposed by a governing body which outlaws anything having to do with personal choice of an adult that has no direct bearing on other members of said society (ie. seatbelt laws, helmet laws, tobacco or alcohol prohibitions, etc). I hope the good people of Indiana put this one to bed.
With seatbelt laws I think that's different because other people can be endangered if somebody without one flies out, plus they ensure children are wearing them and they aren't old enough to make such a decision for themselves.
Yeah and it goes to show this bullshit isn't limited to deep blue states. Hell Utah is one of the most anti tobacco states and it certainly isn't because of the blue counties in the southern part of the state.
"No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the legislature is in session."
-- Usually attributed to Twain, like so many other quotes, but I don't really care who said it...it just needed to be said.
-- Usually attributed to Twain, like so many other quotes, but I don't really care who said it...it just needed to be said.
I spent all of my adult life in combat with other lawyers,,,,who just like me went home every night to our families.
My wife will ask, Don’t you have any principles and core beliefs?
I’ll reply we can’t afford for me, to have any. Whoever pays us, is what I believe to be right.
There is no common law or constitutional right to raise or possess or smoke tobacco.
The Indiana legislature can outlaw booze, tobacco, or cannabis or even yellow margarine.
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The manufacture of artificially colored oleomargarine may be prohibited by a free government without a violation of fundamental rights.
There is such a distinction between natural butter artificially colored and oleomargarine artificially colored so as to cause it to look like butter that the taxing of the latter and not the former cannot be avoided as an arbitrary exertion of the taxing power of Congress without any basis of classification, taxing one article and excluding another of the same class.
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Those who disagree with us are not evil or the devil.
Let’s see who proposed this law, shall we?
He fought six years of the Vietnam War in the US Army Reserve
en.m.wikipedia.org
He should be a great booster of our military.
There’s several military bases in Indiana where kids go to lay down their lives at the altar of our nation.
veteranpcs.com
Who’s going to explain to them, they can be trusted with keeping us old folks safe in our beds, while we forbid them a cigarrete ?
Doesn’t sound none too patriotic, does it?.
My wife will ask, Don’t you have any principles and core beliefs?
I’ll reply we can’t afford for me, to have any. Whoever pays us, is what I believe to be right.
There is no common law or constitutional right to raise or possess or smoke tobacco.
The Indiana legislature can outlaw booze, tobacco, or cannabis or even yellow margarine.
Xxx
The manufacture of artificially colored oleomargarine may be prohibited by a free government without a violation of fundamental rights.
There is such a distinction between natural butter artificially colored and oleomargarine artificially colored so as to cause it to look like butter that the taxing of the latter and not the former cannot be avoided as an arbitrary exertion of the taxing power of Congress without any basis of classification, taxing one article and excluding another of the same class.
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Those who disagree with us are not evil or the devil.
Let’s see who proposed this law, shall we?
He fought six years of the Vietnam War in the US Army Reserve
Ed Charbonneau - Wikipedia
He should be a great booster of our military.
There’s several military bases in Indiana where kids go to lay down their lives at the altar of our nation.
What Military Bases are in Indiana? | VeteranPCS
veteranpcs.com
Who’s going to explain to them, they can be trusted with keeping us old folks safe in our beds, while we forbid them a cigarrete ?
Doesn’t sound none too patriotic, does it?.
I’d like a generational ban on people sticking their nose in my damn business.
Exactly. They are both personal choices and should both be respected. In addition, why one free, adult man/woman behind a desk in a government office would have any right to tell another free, adult man/woman of the citizenry they can't put flame to a leaf and taste it is beyond me.Who’s going to explain to them, they can be trusted with keeping us old folks safe in our beds, while we forbid them a cigarrete ?
Doesn’t sound none too patriotic, does it?.
I’ve been against the legalization of cannabis all my life, and I lost, and I’m over it.
I used to preach a sermon to the kids that I represented on marijuana possession.
I’d light up and say my tobacco comes from the local liquor store. Norris Gerhart gets it from the Simpson Tobacco Company.
Your marijuana comes from a friend.
He buys it from a stone cold criminal that will slit his throat and yours too, if you snitch.
God bless prosecutors.
In 40 years I never had one even ask to have a kid become a marijuana snitch.
None of us went all those years to school to kill a kid, you know?
The British SmOkE fReE GeNeRaTiOn FAQ page straight up denied that a generational ban would encroach on anybody's freedom of choice, because it wouldn't force current smokers to stop. Such blatant gaslighting, evidently they care nothing about the younger generation. Clearly they hold the younger generation in very low regard if they think it's their moral obligation to discriminate against them.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims maybe the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for their own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their conscience." - C.S. Lewis
Especially when it makes the easier to encroach in other ways. Overreach is never satisfied.
It’s absurd and will not work. Just like prohibition people will find a way.
The human population has always contained a percentage of what's commonly referred to these days as "Karens."
People who live to micro-manage everyone involved with every situation they encounter. It's the air they breathe. The reason they exist.
Logic doesn't matter, nor does demonstrable fact. At best thos things are irrelevant.
They are never satisfied and cannot help themselves. They MUST be in charge regardless of the situation or circumstances. They screech, they cry, they demand, they entangle, they insist, they interfere. Endlessly and inexhaustibly.
At the bottom are PTA staffers, HOA board members, and so forth. The next level up are city councils, county officials, and related. At the top are state and national-level politicians.
The end.
People who live to micro-manage everyone involved with every situation they encounter. It's the air they breathe. The reason they exist.
Logic doesn't matter, nor does demonstrable fact. At best thos things are irrelevant.
They are never satisfied and cannot help themselves. They MUST be in charge regardless of the situation or circumstances. They screech, they cry, they demand, they entangle, they insist, they interfere. Endlessly and inexhaustibly.
At the bottom are PTA staffers, HOA board members, and so forth. The next level up are city councils, county officials, and related. At the top are state and national-level politicians.
The end.