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Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
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Hawaii
Holy Crap, we need to start a Pity Box, with as many people willing to ship this poor lad a tin, to make up for lost time.

Shit 30 years never smoking any tinned blends, I can’t fathom this. :(

@NightSkyFlash I’ll send you a tin of Sutliff Anomalous, don’t worry about it, I don’t like it, hopefully you’ll enjoy it. I’ll PM you down the road, just stick around and become a regular here.

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gamzultovah

Lifer
Aug 4, 2019
3,205
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Also, so many blends taste nearly alike. It's a very rare blend that is truly unique. At a certain point I realized that I have 15 variations of 20% gray and 20 variations of 20.1% gray. It's great for the companies that produce blends. They can take the same thing and either tin it 15 different ways, or make marginal adjustments and claim the result as something new in the world. How thin can one split that hair.
Once again, I agree wholeheartedly. The only thing that I can add is this: Smoke-ability. A lot of the enjoyment of pipe smoking (for me) comes from the smoke-ability of a blend, and If a blender/blending house has baked this into the equation, then I tend to gravitate towards their blends. I believe this is why “Codger blends” are still so popular today, because they are so easy to smoke. Set, forget and go about your day. No bite, no complexity to think about, don’t need multiple relights and/or tending to with a tamper, and they have a pleasant room note. The only thing that tends to lack is vitamin N, but a pinch of Five Brothers easily remedies this. Simple pleasures.
 
Dec 10, 2013
2,610
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Nijmegen, the Netherlands
I think of it as very mature to smoke bulk tobacco :)
Back to simplicity and the gist of pipe smoking,; we are way too spoiled.
Leave the wrapper in, it is there for a reason.
It sometimes takes me a year to empty one tin, with many brands this is no concern provided the wrapper is left in the tin.
Depending on brand, what kind of tin etc. Anyway; either jar it , or let the wrapper be.
 
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haebar

Can't Leave
Nov 10, 2014
348
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East Tennessee
I usually toss the top wrappings in a tin so I can get to the tobacco easier. I find that the tobacco in some tins is a little too moist for my smoking preference, so I leave the tobacco in the tin for several weeks after breaking the seal and opening it. After a few weeks in the tin, I transfer the tobacco to a canning jar for long-term storage. If a tobacco blend is available in bulk, I buy it in bulk for the $ savings. When I try a blend that is new to me, I tend to smoke it for several weeks in order to evaluate it in different pipes, environments, etc. I have my favorites that I have smoked for many years, like Carter Hall, which I often smoke and always come back to.
 

Butter Side Down

Can't Leave
Jun 2, 2023
315
3,380
Chicago
I'd say the tin type has more to do with how things fare in storage than the paper.

The round twist tops (dunhill and the like) are the best generally. They make a very good seal when they're closed. I've had blends that stayed moist in those tins for years with or without the paper.

The round pop tops with the plastic lid (pease, cnd) are next best. I think the plastic lids are somewhat gas permeable because I've had things dry out if left too long in there. But for say six months or so, should be no worries.

The square and rectangular vacuum-sealed ones (SG, GH, capstan flake, etc) are the worst for long term storage. Once they're open, you've got a few weeks maybe before things start to dry out. I usually jar these as soon as they're opened.
 
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
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If I keep the blend in the tin, I keep the wax paper disc over the top to retain a little moisture. Since I don't always get the contents in a jar, this prolongs the freshness in a tin. Jars are always best practice, but I like to keep things as simple as possible. Sometimes a little drying improves the burn of a blend and the flavor too. See what works for you.
 
Jun 3, 2023
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Depends on how soon you smoke it I think the great thing about pipe smoking is you do it your way at your pace just jar some of it if you taking a long time to smoke it before it dryies out too much
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
5,491
28,115
Florida - Space Coast
I’ve smoked a pipe for 30 years, but for some inexplicable reason, I’ve never, ever bought a tin until the Chicago Pipe Show a couple weeks ago. I’ve only ever smoked bulk tobaccos - usually Lane BCA.

But at some point, everyone grows up and starts acting like an adult doing what they should have been doing all along. In this case, that is exploring the fine world of tobacco tins.

Here’s my dumb question - should you keep this piece of waxed paper in the tin as you work your way through it? I assume it helps with maintaining humidity?

Your kind informative feedback is appreciated.

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When i was about 10 we were at Chuck's Steakhouse and I loved their French Onion Soup, but i couldn't figure out the cheese, too young to figure out sliding the edge of the spoon around the crock to cut it and i was always going to use my fingers, but didn't want to because we were in a nice steakhouse and i didn't want to use my fingers, my dad said "You paid for it, it's yours so you can eat it however you want". So there ya go.
 
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Peterson314

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 13, 2019
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I’ve smoked a pipe for 30 years, [...] usually Lane BCA.
I think if I had one blend to smoke for 30 years, it'd be BCA. You made a good call.

I have enjoyed reading all of the variations of answers to this question. I smoked for probably ten years before I cracked my first tin. That's 'cause the only tobacco store I had was Tinder Box and the only pipe tobacco they carried was their house line (bulk Lane).

Any tin I pop goes straight into a mason jar. I have never smoked a tin quick enough to do it any other way.
 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,273
30,299
Carmel Valley, CA
I think the waterfront has been covered, but in case there are more folks who want to comment, this will stay open a bit longer.

Me, I have done all of those things without thinking about what was best, because that is usually in flux.
 

warren99

Lifer
Aug 16, 2010
2,391
28,008
California
I tend to keep the papers in the tins, however, I think the seal of the tin itself has more to do with keeping the tobacco moist than the paper that comes with the tin. Some tins tend to dry out with the papers left inside within a short period of time while others that don't come with paper, tend to stay moist longer.
 

UB 40

Lifer
Jul 7, 2022
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nahbesprechung.net
I kept that paper in the tin because it may contain the humidity of the tobacco for longer. Recently in a tin of Three Nuns it started to disintegrate and spreading white flakes on the tobacco.

First I thought of mould. It just was the white coating on that piece of paper that was crumbling over. This paper is different to some of the other brands, paper, cardboard, it’s very thin with a certain shiny surface. I used it to put a few drops of water on it to rehydrate the Three Nuns, It has a coating that turns out into white powder.
 

coys

Can't Leave
Feb 15, 2022
337
790
Missouri
Also, so many blends taste nearly alike. It's a very rare blend that is truly unique. At a certain point I realized that I have 15 variations of 20% gray and 20 variations of 20.1% gray. It's great for the companies that produce blends. They can take the same thing and either tin it 15 different ways, or make marginal adjustments and claim the result as something new in the world. How thin can one split that hair.
I have begun to agree with you here.

As with VaPers, I've begun to like them a lot. I can tell the difference between certain ones, but for me it's basically VaPer (mild Per) or VaPer (more Per). If you secretly swapped my jar out with several different mild VaPers I probably wouldn't know. I certainly could not pick them out of a lineup!

So it goes with other varieties for me. Light and medium VAs, Bright and Red VA, medium English vs heavier English.

The good news is that this frees me from looking for the best or the perfect one and just enjoy.
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,229
41,510
RTP, NC. USA
The fact you can post this question indicates you are not an idiot.

"Idiots. —Those so defective that the mental development never exceeds that or a normal child of about two years.
Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an idiot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years.
Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years.
— Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912"
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
4,242
12,574
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
The fact you can post this question indicates you are not an idiot.

"Idiots. —Those so defective that the mental development never exceeds that or a normal child of about two years.
Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an idiot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years.
Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years.
— Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912"

“There are four kinds of people in this world: cretins, fools, morons, and lunatics…Cretins don’t even talk; they sort of slobber and stumble…Fools are in great demand, especially on social occasions. They embarrass everyone but provide material for conversation…Fools don’t claim that cats bark, but they talk about cats when everyone else is talking about dogs. They offend all the rules of conversation, and when they really offend, they’re magnificent…Morons never do the wrong thing. They get their reasoning wrong. Like the fellow who says that all dogs are pets and all dogs bark, and cats are pets, too, therefore cats bark…Morons will occasionally say something that’s right, but they say it for the wrong reason…A lunatic is easily recognized. He is a moron who doesn’t know the ropes. The moron proves his thesis; he has logic, however twisted it may be. The lunatic on the other hand, doesn’t concern himself at all with logic; he works by short circuits. For him, everything proves everything else. The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars…There are lunatics who don’t bring up the Templars, but those who do are the most insidious. At first they seem normal, then all of a sudden…”
― Umberto Eco, Foucault's Pendulum
 

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Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,229
41,510
RTP, NC. USA
“There are four kinds of people in this world: cretins, fools, morons, and lunatics…Cretins don’t even talk; they sort of slobber and stumble…Fools are in great demand, especially on social occasions. They embarrass everyone but provide material for conversation…Fools don’t claim that cats bark, but they talk about cats when everyone else is talking about dogs. They offend all the rules of conversation, and when they really offend, they’re magnificent…Morons never do the wrong thing. They get their reasoning wrong. Like the fellow who says that all dogs are pets and all dogs bark, and cats are pets, too, therefore cats bark…Morons will occasionally say something that’s right, but they say it for the wrong reason…A lunatic is easily recognized. He is a moron who doesn’t know the ropes. The moron proves his thesis; he has logic, however twisted it may be. The lunatic on the other hand, doesn’t concern himself at all with logic; he works by short circuits. For him, everything proves everything else. The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars…There are lunatics who don’t bring up the Templars, but those who do are the most insidious. At first they seem normal, then all of a sudden…”
― Umberto Eco, Foucault's Pendulum
Wonderful book. Been awhile, maybe I'll revisit it.
 
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bent1

Lifer
Jan 9, 2015
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I’ve smoked a pipe for 30 years, but for some inexplicable reason, I’ve never, ever bought a tin until the Chicago Pipe Show a couple weeks ago. I’ve only ever smoked bulk tobaccos - usually Lane BCA.

But at some point, everyone grows up and starts acting like an adult doing what they should have been doing all along. In this case, that is exploring the fine world of tobacco tins.

Here’s my dumb question - should you keep this piece of waxed paper in the tin as you work your way through it? I assume it helps with maintaining humidity?

Your kind informative feedback is appreciated.

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I do. It seems to help maintain humidity a bit longer. I usually transfer contents to a 4oz jelly jar with screw top lid.

Two years ago I met a 75 yr old piper who mainly smoked Carter Hall, since he was in his early 20’s. He lamented that Half & Half was the next best thing, but a distant 2nd. This was in between USA production shutdown & before Dominican production. The following week, I gave him an unopened USA made tub. He was thrilled, eyes lit up, offered to pay me but I refused. He said it’s so good to have something so reliably good.
 
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