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Old_Newby

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Jan 1, 2022
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SP responded to my email query:

“I apologize for any confusion, and upon further research it appears that we are only able to receive tobaccos that Kopp has released in the United States. Unfortunately, Dock Worker and Nashville County were not released for sale in the United States. To purchase either of those you would have to find a retailer outside of the U.S..

Thank you for your patience, and I apologize for my misunderstanding with what tobaccos were available from Kopp. “
 

khiddy

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and most of which have been done with the initial version of the blends quite sometime ago. Some recipes have changed over time, and some blends are now manufactured in a different place (and threfore probably slighty different) after the end of the HU-Dan collaboration.
I did a spot-check and you're entirely right. The vast majority of reviews of the HU blends were done in the mid-to-late 2010s. Even those done by @JimInks were done in the 2014–2017 range (there may be a few outside that range, I didn't check the reviews of all 73 blends in the TR database).
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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Doesn’t this add mystery to the plot! I wonder when all those blends had been released? Probably similar to what we did with Standard Tobacco to get under the FFA wire: Send out ten tins of each blend, quietly, to friends? Some folks here still have those hand packed SToP tins, with laser printed labels!
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
4,238
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SP responded to my email query:

“I apologize for any confusion, and upon further research it appears that we are only able to receive tobaccos that Kopp has released in the United States. Unfortunately, Dock Worker and Nashville County were not released for sale in the United States. To purchase either of those you would have to find a retailer outside of the U.S..

Thank you for your patience, and I apologize for my misunderstanding with what tobaccos were available from Kopp. “
This begs the question why Kopp did not release them in the States.
 

Sigmund

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Sep 17, 2023
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Well, I think some of the blends were a deal between Dan and HU. In the EU those were sold in traditional tins. The ones made by kopp were in the paint cans. I dont know if kopp has the rights to distribute those
 
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AirOne

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Well, I think some of the blends were a deal between Dan and HU. In the EU those were sold in traditional tins. The ones made by kopp were in the paint cans. I dont know if kopp has the rights to distribute those
Dockworker was indeed made by Dan. Not Nashville county, so it must be more complex. Maybe they cannot produce enough of those blends because of one leaf? Or those blends are too close to some US tobacco?
 

Old_Newby

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So not being able to get Dock Worker is a real bummer. That is like Peterson refusing to sell 3P in the states. They want our American money but they want to hoard the most popular for Europe. I wont be buying an HU because of it.
 
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swilford

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There's not a great mystery here to be puzzled out on the question of the range brought it. For capacity reasons (so it didn't take longer to make happen) and logistical reasons, both Kopp and Laudisi thought it impractical to launch the full range at once. These were the ones they thought best to start with in the US market, presumably based on global sales volumes.

If HU continues to do well in the US, we and they will want to expand upon the current offerings.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
So not being able to get Dock Worker is a real bummer. That is like Peterson refusing to sell 3P in the states. They want our American money but they want to hoard the most popular for Europe. I wont be buying an HU because of it.
Wow. That’ll do what? that’s some powerful logic there! Or how about this…, without the hyperbole…. if they aren’t selling what you want, you don’t have the choice to buy It, therefore you won’t be making any purchases…. As stands to reason.
 
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Old_Newby

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Im sorry but that is just goofy and ethnocentric
You did mental gymnastics to get to use that word although it’s misused. My decision to support or not support a product has nothing to do with comparing cultures. It has to do with I will support companies that dont limit products to some customers and not others. Feel free to buy all you like, but for me I will patronage others. If more people expressed the same complaint and withheld patronage they would quickly adjust to the customers requests. Its called capitalism.
 

Old_Newby

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Wow. That’ll do what? that’s some powerful logic there! Or how about this…, without the hyperbole…. if they aren’t selling what you want, you don’t have the choice to buy It, therefore you won’t be making any purchases…. As stands to reason.
hjj
 

Old_Newby

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 1, 2022
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Wow. That’ll do what? that’s some powerful logic there! Or how about this…, without the hyperbole…. if they aren’t selling what you want, you don’t have the choice to buy It, therefore you won’t be making any purchases…. As stands to reason.
sorry for the “hjj” msg. i was boarding a plane and had to stop msg but I think screen was not locked. but that Bbi was funny.
 
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