How're These Tins Workin' Out for Ya'?

[burleybreath]

Interior of C&D 8-oz. tin from 2009. The white pin points are light shining through the rust. Although some of the debris on the sides are tobacco bits, there is quite a bit of rust underlying it. The vertical seam is completely iron oxide. Tobacco was dry as dust. I know, I know--should have jarred it. Deacon's Downfall indeed.

 

[Servant King]

What was the exterior like, in terms of bulge? (that's what she said)

 

[burleybreath]

What was the exterior like, in terms of bulge? (that's what she said)

None. Unless it happened before the pinholes, then deflated--which presents a strange image in my mind of things occurring in the recesses of the closet where I found this after 16 years.

 

[Waning Embers]

Like most tinned vegetation, those cans are only good for a couple of years. Decades long storage was never intended.

 

[Servant King]

None. Unless it happened before the pinholes, then deflated--which presents a strange image in my mind of things occurring in the recesses of the closet where I found this after 16 years.

Seems highly unlikely. Most strange things that occur in the recesses of a closet have nothing to do with compromised metal. More like compromised judgment.

My oldest of that kind of tin is only about four years, but this gives me something else to think about. And I need more things to worry about like I need a hole in the head.

That's why God created mylar, I suppose.

 

[VDL_Piper]

16 years is a bit of time for a metal can to try and hold damp tobacco, I'd say its done a pretty darn good job.

 

[Gerald Boone]

Interior of C&D 8-oz. tin from 2009. The white pin points are light shining through the rust. Although some of the debris on the sides are tobacco bits, there is quite a bit of rust underlying it. The vertical seam is completely iron oxide. Tobacco was dry as dust. I know, I know--should have jarred it. Deacon's Downfall indeed.

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I like to use a tin for storage of my daily smoke of my home blend. No problems yet because the tin is regularly opened. Maybe that's the thing, no long term storage; lotsa air. Sorry for your loss of tobacco. A good thing to post because for those of us who cellar tobacco this is something we should check on if we have tins.

 

[SourShank]

Is there a difference in aging tobacco jarred or sealed? For example, if I have a freshly sealed and sold tin of VA/VAPER, will storing it tinned produce a noticeable difference from jarring it upon delivery? Thanks for the insight.

 

[LotusEater]

I would think the pin hole was the cause of the problem (rust/corrosion and dried out tobacco).
Sixteenth years is a long time but many members have stored intact tins for very long periods of time without ill effects. That said… there is a reason why some folks transfer everything to mylar— but there is guarantee with mylar either.

I ‘m not sure if C&D tins are known to be any more or less likely to fail than those from other blenders.

 

[brian64]

Like most tinned vegetation, those cans are only good for a couple of years.

Damn...now I have to worry about all of my other tinned vegetation.

 

[mingc]

All things are impermanent, nothing is immutable.

 

[krizzose]

I guess this means I need to buy a spoilage buffer, cause I’m way too lazy to be jarring up all of my tins

 

[orlandofurioso]

This looks nasty and I feel for you.
Still I think of it as odd; there are so many similar tins in our eerie cellar that are much older.
And they are in fine condition. Humid where you live ? Or in the closet ? Closets often are.

 

[Hutch Piper]

Is there a difference in aging tobacco jarred or sealed? For example, if I have a freshly sealed and sold tin of VA/VAPER, will storing it tinned produce a noticeable difference from jarring it upon delivery? Thanks for the insight.

Lots of different opinions that I have seen. I use jars for the most part but that is just my preference.

 

[fireground_piper]

Did those tins have the cardboard inserts like they do now?

 

[kenofshelby]

Have some Half and Half in cans that are over 30 years old, still good.

 

[VDL_Piper]

I could be wrong but aren’t the tins used by C & D/Pease now alloy. If I’m correct then this issue moving forward is mute I’d say.

 

[NookersTheCat]

Definitely concerning.
What does the outside look like? Wondering if it oxidation started from within or without...

To those saying tins shouldnt be expected to last more than a couple years... I kinda really disagree with that. Canned foods generally have best by dates as long, effective dates a decade or more. There's 30+ year old camping food in good tins and even older surviving tins of tobacco from nearly every manufacture you can think of...

What's more, I'd say C&D is undisputedly the single biggest proponent and promoter of the "cellaring" process and actively advertise their blends as being designed for such, so when this happens doing just that it shouldn't be blamed on the consumer (unless, again, kept in objectively bad conditions)

 

[orlandofurioso]

I could be wrong but aren’t the tins used by C & D/Pease now alloy. If I’m correct then this issue moving forward is mute I’d say.

I wonder too !

 

[JeffNYC]

Now something else for me to worry about!