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Professor Moriarty

Can't Leave
Apr 13, 2023
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1,380
United States
I have done a 180 regarding preferred tobacco dryness.
Formerly, I threw away tobacco that had gone dry in my pouch.
Now, my motto is "The dryer, the better"
(Tobacco gone to "shit dust" is the obvious limit.)

For this change in perception, I am grateful for the "current wisdom" found on pipe sites such as this one.
And I find this true of all tobacco blends.
Some say the flavor profile is compromised if too dry. There may truth to this. What do YOU think?
 

Sigmund

Lifer
Sep 17, 2023
2,963
28,308
France
I prefer it not to feel very damp/cool to the touch but remain flexible. When I get around to it Im going to push it a little more towards the dry side. There is nothing helpful about steam.

I think you have to just try drying a few bowls at different degrees of dryness. It will likely vary between blends. Especially between cuts. Dry ribbon might be too dry compared to dry ready rubbed.

However, I agree...wet is just asking for bite and off flavors.
 

JOHN72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2020
5,819
57,262
51
Spain - Europe
There is a determining factor. And that would be the age of the tobacco. I love tobacco with a moist touch. But how is a tobacco that is 20 years old, or older? I started buying tobacco in 2019 I seem to remember. So I have a young cellar. So what about a tobacco that is 15, 20 years old, or older? I mean, for those of us who started buying tobacco late, we are used to smoking young, fresh tobacco, with little or no degradation of its oils.
 

BingBong

Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
1,305
5,667
London UK
It depends on the blend and the maker's style, I'm beginning to think. Fresh Germain's Brown Flake, yum yum, but dry, less so. However, fresh Rattray's Marlin Flake, yuck cloying sweetness, but dried out after 2 years in the tin, not bad at all (I just finally finished my one and only tin).
 

thebriarbear

Lurker
Aug 15, 2024
36
662
New York City
I find that you want a bit of “felt” moisture in your straight VAs…otherwise they go flat and tasteless.

If the reason for drying tobacco better is less relights, then just forget it. If you’re trying to maximize flavor and sipping as slow as possible, you’ll need to 1: have some moisture in there, and 2: relight more often.

Just my two cents, of course. I’d rather not sacrifice flavor for burn characteristics.
 

K.E. Powell

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 20, 2022
589
2,178
37
West Virginia
I think it is one of many things we as pipe tobacco smokers tend to greatly overthink. If I have tobacco so wet that it won't take a good charring light, then I will dry it out enough so it burns a little more readily. Otherwise, I leave my tobacco alone. Some tobacco requires more care and relights than others, and I would rather do a quick relight than overly dry tobacco and sap it of its flavor.
 

Auxsender

Lifer
Jul 17, 2022
1,104
5,686
Nashville
For me, there is no “too dry” but there is definitely “too wet”. The only issue I’ve encountered with too dry tobacco is super fast burning which can be alleviated by slower smoking but that makes more relights. It’s a balance I don’t care to think too deeply about.
Every bowl seems to have its own characteristics and I like that about pipe smoking. As Iris DeMent says, “I’ll let the mystery be”.
 

KruegerFlap

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 3, 2021
151
353
Ohio
I also think it is blend/location/personal preference dependant. I experiment with each blend in a few different pipes to figure out which works best for my wants. Then there are the stubborn blends that seem to resist and defy all logic and physics and are just a pain in the ass 😂
 

JohnnyBeach

Might Stick Around
May 21, 2024
97
53
Bangor, Maine
I found that my favorite tobacco comes too moist in the pouch, so I have experimented with air drying and, now, microwaving it. I could not believe how much steam rose from a pile I put on a paper towel in the microwave for 30 seconds. The result, still not too dry but I also leave the pouch open to ensure it is dried to suit my tastes.
 
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Most tobaccos have been dried to almost crunchy several times before it gets to the blenders. It can be kept at bone dry until the cells start to break and release the natural essential oils of the leaf. Once the oils are gone, I'd say that it has reached the "Too Dry" stage.

As to where I like to dry mine to... depends on the blend. Plus, I don't always do the same thing each and every time I smoke. So, you just have to try drying for each of the blends that you like, till you start to develop a sense of where your preferred levels are, and you'll start to anticipate on new blends. It is more Art and Less Science when it comes to preferences.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,681
18,736
Connecticut, USA
I prefer my tobacco as it is right out of the package it came in. I don't cellar but probably should start. Sutliff Sweet Virginia 707 was too wet for me to light comfortably. I used to use a plate or bowl and leave tobacco out to dry. I recently switched to an old La Flor Dominicana cigar box which has 1.5 inch cedar side walls. It works perfectly so far to dry the tobacco enough but still leave it somewhat 'fresh'. Its working out well. Time will tell.
 

Danimal92sport

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 7, 2024
101
940
42
Chicago USA
I prefer my tobacco as it is right out of the package it came in. I don't cellar but probably should start. Sutliff Sweet Virginia 707 was too wet for me to light comfortably. I used to use a plate or bowl and leave tobacco out to dry. I recently switched to an old La Flor Dominicana cigar box which has 1.5 inch cedar side walls. It works perfectly so far to dry the tobacco enough but still leave it somewhat 'fresh'. Its working out well. Time will tell.
I’m generally the same, but I find that the occasional blend just doesn’t have the correct moisture. To the point where the blender surely didn’t intend for a tobacco to be so wet or dry.

Today I got a couple of oz of bulk C&D and it was incredibly dry - which probably happens to bulk tobaccos. I’m rehydrating as we speak, it’s a ‘turn to dust when you lightly touch it’ kind of dry.
 

InWithBothFeet

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 23, 2024
244
529
Richmond, KY
I was given 2 tins of tobacco today... Dunhill Aperitif and Mixture 965. Both are full open tins, not the first pinch removed that I can tell. Also dry as a cracker. I mean dusty dry. I'm going to make an attempt at rehydration before messing with them too much or I'll be trying to smoke broken crumbs.