How "Done" is Dunhill?

[mso489]

Being a wacky optimist, I keep fantasizing the sale and revival of the Dunhill brand, recipes, or some other way the blends will reemerge. But all of this is coldly calculated business. I'd have to understand the tax laws in whatever nation the blender is incorporated, and much else about their business set-up. No investigative reporter would take the time for this story; the audience is too small. The owners or corporate investors are either cutting their loses or in some odd way making money otherwise out of ceasing production. It will be an interesting story if it ever emerges, but by then even all of us will have lost interest. Kind of sad. But the Dunhill brand lost interest in pipes and tobacco decades ago. They sell high-end boutique travel bags and clothes, and such, and the pipe and tobacco were orphaned years ago. The handwriting was on the wall.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I am also amazed that guys are being so loyal to the company name. After what they did to the pipes and the name of the pipes and yanking the pipe tobaccos, standing behind them and supporting them while they take an ax to chop off the pipe portion of the Dunhill history just strokes my fur all the wrong ways. I'm surprised more guys don't spit in the floor at the very Mention of Alfred Dunhill. Humans are funny things.

 

[mikethompson]

Cosmic, so true, but much of what Dunhill means to people has as much to do with their own individual history with the brand as the flavours of the blends.
Similar as to how I can hear a terrible 90s pop song, but it will make me think of my high school years. Its what I associate with the song.

 

[mso489]

All this said, I'll miss those tins of Nightcap, My Mixture 965, Royal Yacht, London Mixture, and so on. It was a great run, and they were standards in the pipe smoking world. Too bad management, whomsoever that may be, didn't have the right character to pass along the tradition to keep it going. Unfortunately, this is pretty typical business thinking in today's world. In their place, given their options, I may have done the same, but I hope not. Likely it's all numbers driven.

 

[pipesticks]

Cosmic, I agree with you whole heartedly. I will have some Dunhill's to enjoy for several years. But i take exception to their attitude. You want to walk away from the tobacco roots that founded your company? Fine. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I'm not rewarding you with exhorbitant purchases on your way out. Elitist quitters....screw them. I will never walk into another Dunhill shop again. It not only rubs me the wrong way, it downright pisses me off.

 

[tobaccojoe]

I'm okay knowing that I don't have enough time/free cash to cellar all of my Dunhill favorites for the future and I'm trying to order what I can comfortably afford. Thankfully, there's only a very few of their blends that I can't live without.

 

[virginialover]

I have a good amount of Murray's production and those are otherworldly when compared to the STG production. Nevertheless, Aperitif, Durbar and Ye Olde Sign are close, for me, to the old Dunhill spirit. This brand has been dying slowly and it's time to go for good this time. No more revivals or marketing hype please, what represented Alfred Dunhill the tobacconist, his mixtures is no more. It's time to stop this undeath once and for all.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Me purchasing Dunhill blends I like have zero to do with loyalty or a desire to reward them in any manner. It is simply a pragmatic approach to a problem, the problem being I may not have those blends available to smoke in the future if I don't purchase an adequate inventory now. The only loyalty I have when purchasing tobacco is towards my taste buds.

 

[maker]

Don't believe the hype. Dunhill is a branding company that doesn't make anything themselves anymore. They will sell the name to whoever will be willing to pay for the name once the contract with STG is up. Years from now people will be saying how they miss the old STG blends from the golden years and how the blends today just don't measure up.

I haven't even heard any news of the FDA regs actually ever going into effect.

We'll probably see the return of Mcclelland after they realize they miss the business after all and getting bored playing with animals at the zoo and painting with a bunch of kids at the local community college. The anniversary Back in Business blend will sell out immediately of course. :wink:

 

[unkleyoda]

Me purchasing Dunhill blends I like have zero to do with loyalty or a desire to reward them in any manner. It is simply a pragmatic approach to a problem, the problem being I may not have those blends available to smoke in the future if I don't purchase an adequate inventory now. The only loyalty I have when purchasing tobacco is towards my taste buds.

Don't worry about Cosmic, he's the resident curmudgeon.

 

[warren]

It was too complicated to post. My fault.

 

[warren]

Sufficed to say; The Dunhill name with respect to almost all things tobacco is simply going away. The owners of the marque is BAT and they are not going to assist the competition.

 

[jzbdano]

Does anyone know if BAT is paying royalties to Dunhill for use of the name?

 

[thomasw]

I will not miss Dunhill's tobaccos, as they didn't cater to my burley-lover taste, though I feel for those who will miss some of their unique blends like Royal Yacht, which isn't exactly replaceable. Pipestud and deathmetal both loved the blend.

 

[admiral]

They are not going away just re-branding

And still if you like them - buy some, why you need to wait to come close to extinction in order to stock up?

 

[mikethompson]

DONE-hill

 

[jpmcwjr]

jp, Here are a couple of articles that talk about the moisture content in pipe tobacco. I don't believe anyone tins at 80%.

Dunhill does, on at least several of their blends I've had a few tins each of. Just over 80% @ 70º... But the winner is Esoterica: over 90%! At least on the last five half pounds of Margate I have opened; some were mid eighties.

 

[unkleyoda]

Dunhill does, on at least several of their blends I've had a few tins each of. Just over 80% @ 70º

That's odd. I smoke mainly Dunhill, and their tins are always perfect smoking moisture. Are you talking about flakes or ribbon? I have yet to 'pop' any Dunhill flake tobaccos yet, so my experience is with ribbon cuts. Now Gawith is wetter than wet.

 

[mso489]

How done is Dunhill? Well done.

 

[blendtobac]

Even if Orlik picks up the production, it is unlikely to be the exact same product.

Actually, it would be. Orlik has been making Dunhill for years, now.
Russ