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mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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Sunny Cornwall, UK.
I have been wanting to try my hand at making my own pressed tobacco plugs from mixtures I have created at home for quite some while. I did a lot of reading on the subject of home pressing and what methods other enthusiasts had employed to that end. For the most part, woodworking G-clamps were the weapon of choice for creating the pressure and a whole variety of formers were used to contain the mixture whilst it was being pressed.
Sadly what most folks ended up with was something resembling crumble cake. I on the other hand wanted something more akin to proper plug. Not the soft plugs that G Pease produces but the more solid 'brick like' plugs as per Condor, Erinmore etc but how to go about this?
It then occurred to me that I already had the necessary equipment for the pressing, my rock trimmer which I use in my mineral collecting hobby. All I had to do was to remove the hardened steel chisels from the device leaving me with something that would exert extreme pressures (this thing cuts granite like it would cut a biscuit/cookie) by simply turning the handle.
My next task was to find something to use as a former and all I had at hand was an old PVC pill bottle. That would have to do for my first attempt I thought so yesterday I went ahead and got cracking.
I was using a mixture of roughly 60/40 Curly Cut and Brown Bogie. I fed the mixture into the PVC pot and kept pressing it down to add more. This I did until I could not get any more inside so took it to my 'press' where I placed a sheet of tinfoil over the baccy and placed a coin (roughly the diameter of the pot) on top of that and started winding.
This is where it got interesting as every time I wound it down naturally it compressed some so I had to unwind it and add another coin. This I did several times until I could really feel resistance meaning that some serious pressure was being applied.
Fast forward to today and I just added a couple more coins as obviously overnight it had settled somewhat. It is now pretty rock solid and the PVC pot is starting to swell at the bottom! I have wondered how I might go about extracting my plug from the pot and can only think of using my Dremel with a cutting disc. If this works, and I suspect it will, I shall next make a proper hardwood former (American black walnut) with a steel plate for the bottom and the sides being screwed together for later extraction of the plug.
I estimate that I used about 15 - 18 typical bowlfuls of tobacco to start with and I estimate the current size of the plug to be about 15mm tall so it really is well compressed.
I am hoping to leave it in the press for a whole week but am itching to see how it has turned out so I may open it up earlier :wink:
Below are three images of the press in action...
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I would be very interested to see what other members have come up with in their own attempts to make a proper plug, and if anyone has any ideas or improvements that might be useful for my own set up please do let me know.
Regards,
Jay.

 

skraps

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 9, 2015
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Pretty damn cool. Thanks for the pics too.
My only suggestion would be to ditch the pill bottle, and get yourself some heavy gauge PVC piping. It would avoid the bulging and being open on the bottom and the top (with a proper plate) would allow easier extraction.

 

hmhaines

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 5, 2016
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1
CT
This is great! I thought about using stainless steel tube and a hydraulic shop press, but don't have the space for a press right now. This has be thinking, we'll see if I can build something before moving!

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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8,914
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
I have just read elsewhere of a chap that used some PVC tubing for his former that he had cut a single slit down the length of the tube to facilitate plug extraction. Naturally he had to use Jubilee (hose) clips on the tube during pressing but I think the idea is quite a viable one.
My initial idea was to use some steel tubing split into halves lengthwise and using Jubilee clips to hold it but I think his idea is the better one. It will all depend of what I can get hold of first.
By the way, as it was forum member Dave (Oldreddog) who spurred me on in this (he uses his sofa foot for his press) I think it only right to call my first plug 'Red Dog Plug' and if it turns out to be a success then I will send him a sample as a thank you :puffy:
Regards,
Jay.

 

seagullplayer

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 30, 2014
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Indiana
I would not use a cutting disk as you will get PVC dust into your finished product.

As thin as that PVC looks I would use a utility knife and score it several times, or maybe even tin snips.
You have a nice press going there, but I agree with using a pipe and a proper bottom next time.

You should be able to find some "fender" washers that would fit your pipe in place of coins next go around.
Really curious to see your end result.

 

davet

Lifer
May 9, 2015
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Estey's Bridge N.B Canada
I thought about using stainless steel tube and a hydraulic shop press, but don't have the space for a press right now
I thought of the same idea but considered threaded rod or bolts holding the top and base together and to keep the pressure on it and free up the press.I guess this would work without the press as well.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,377
Carmel Valley, CA
I'd use a steel pipe, not PVC!! And agree that sawing has deficiencies. Knife, or extract from top with awl, but that'd mess up the cake. And to extract, a jig to raise it up by the rim, so you can push it out the bottom when you use a steel pipe- resting on a steel plate. I have the perfect piece that was cut off from my vehicle guard protecting my new water well, but shipping ($ or Sterling!) costs a lot.
But well done! The cake should be very satisfying, and thanks for the expo.

 

markus

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 18, 2014
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Bloomfield, IN
I don't have a press at my disposal, so I was toying with the idea of using C-clamps and a section of 2 and 1/2 inch PVC with some round 3/4 inch plywood pieces as end plates and I would just tighten the clamps a little more everyday.

I would also like a way to apply low heat to it over a consistent period of time, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

I'm not sure how long the pressing process should take though, does anyone know? A month? 2 months?

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,899
8,914
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
John, I've seen Glynn's video before but thanks for the link. I do not want to end up with a 'crumble cake', I am specifically after making a proper hard plug tobacco. Sadly from what I have read and seen thus far, using G-clamps or threaded rods fed through blocks of wood will not do the job. Put simply you cannot exert enough pressure using those methods and your end result is just cake.
Those who have used 6 ton hydraulic jacks or presses have however produced plugs. Though my set up is small, so is my former so I will be getting something like the right pressure required.
This is only my first experiment at doing this but I will improve all aspects as I work along.
As for my plug retrieval from the PVC pot I reckon I will get away with scoring it with the Dremel and making the final cut with a Stanley knife. Regards getting dust into the plug there should be no problem there as when I started I had to cut the top off the pot as it was too tall and the cutting disc I used created next to no dust at all as it pretty much 'melted' its way through the PVC!
I will of course show what finally comes out of the press but ideally I'd like to leave it in there for a week. Whether I am able to resist opening it up earlier...we shall have to see.
Regards,
Jay

 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,206
23,026
SE PA USA
You will need around 325psi to make a plug. And some plugs/flakes also use an adhesive, like red gum arabic to help keep things together.

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,899
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Sunny Cornwall, UK.
"And some plugs/flakes also use an adhesive, like red gum arabic to help keep things together."
Woodsroad, once I had it all loaded up and pressing I did wonder if I ought to have added a few drops of water to help bind things together but obviously by then it was too late :roll:
That said, the baccy mixture wasn't exactly bone dry (what Kendal tobacco is?) but was actually still quite moist so fingers crossed.
Next time I shall line my former (whatever I end up using) with grease-proof paper to help retain the moisture. Far easier to dry a plug than to re-moisten it methinks :puffy:
Javan, of course I will update, both on the plug itself and how it smokes.
Regards,
Jay.

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,899
8,914
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
Well folks, my curiosity got the better of me and I just opened up the press!
Extracting the Red Dog Plug was a lot easier than I had envisaged, I just scored two lines with the Dremel then with a sharp penknife and my Leatherman I managed to get the plug out. I was astonished to see that the top of the plug has our Queen's head and the date of the 50p coin that was the first coin in the stack!
This is the former cut in two with the stack of coins used for extra compression. They should give an idea of how much tobacco actually went into the former...
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Here is the top of the plug with the last remaining coin still in place...
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Plug side, top and bottom. The imprint of the date and outline of the Queen's head is just visible...
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Here is the plug cut in two. Note how it is 'dished', this is because my coin wasn't quite the right diameter of the former...
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Close up of one half of the plug...
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What's left of the former...
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Though only in the press since Sunday it is pretty rock hard and was a bit of a pig to cut in half...surely a good sign? I've not yet smoked a bowl but shall later in the day and report back. I am currently smoking the very same mixture unpressed so as I will be able to make a decent comparison. By the way, it smells gorgeous and appears to have lost no moisture at all :puffy:
Regards,
Jay.

 
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