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Apr 26, 2012
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Here's negative news in a scientific paper:
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/802.full
That's all fine and dandy, but there was no mention of how many cigars and/or pipe bowls these individuals smoked each day. For someone smoking 10 bowls a day everyday (70/week) compared to someone that has one bowl daily (7/week); there is going to be significant differences. The study while showing there is ill effect for smoking pipes and cigars is not a very precise study as we don't know the amount these individuals are smoking.
Here are a few links that have some good informaiton. Take from them what you will. Happy reading!
Here is a study done by Henri P. Gaboriau M.D. that was presented to the Seattle Pipe Club back in March of 2002:

http://www.seattlepipeclub.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=969877&module_id=17020
Therapeutic Effects of Smoking:

http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm
Pipe Smoking and Health: "Risky Business or Casual Pleasure?" by Mark Beale, MD:

http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm
Second Hand Smoke Study by Stanford University:

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/may9/smoking-050907.html

 

rekall

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Thanks metalheadycigarguy but can you give us a brief synopsis of what conclusions they reached? As far as the second hand smoke issue I have a link that says it is fraudulent manipulation of data that gave them the right to proclaim that it was harmful.
Scientific Evidence Shows Secondhand Smoke Is No Danger
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2008/07/01/scientific-evidence-shows-secondhand-smoke-no-danger

 

unclefester13

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My father smoked a pipe till he was 80 and he died at 83 and a half . . . from a stroke . . . I guess he should not have given up on the briar . . . oh, but wait, he was having mini stokes before that, and that's why he gave up the pipe. No, pipe smoking does not stop strokes, but it is relaxing, and beats the alternative . . . not smoking a pipe, lol.

 

yaddy306

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Aug 7, 2013
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Here's negative news in a scientific paper:

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/802.full
That's all fine and dandy, but there was no mention of how many cigars and/or pipe bowls these individuals smoked each day. For someone smoking 10 bowls a day everyday (70/week) compared to someone that has one bowl daily (7/week); there is going to be significant differences. The study while showing there is ill effect for smoking pipes and cigars is not a very precise study as we don't know the amount these individuals are smoking.
The variability in the amount subjects were smoking probably explains the wide confidence intervals.

In addition, I noted that one result of the study wasn't mentioned by the authors: their own data suggests that the relative rate of non-smoking related cancers is LOWER for pipe smokers than for non-smokers (relative risk: 0.86, CI: 0.45, 1.65). Unless I'm reading this wrong.
Also, they report a "marginally significant increased risk of total mortality (P=0.06)". Where I come from, a P value of 0.06 is NOT significant, not "marginally" significant.

 

bryanf

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Jul 16, 2013
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The ultimate Mark Twain quote!

“The Moral Statistician.”

Originally published in Sketches, Old and New, 1893
I don’t want any of your statistics; I took your whole batch and lit my pipe with it.

I hate your kind of people. You are always ciphering out how much a man’s health is injured, and how much his intellect is impaired, and how many pitiful dollars and cents he wastes in the course of ninety-two years’ indulgence in the fatal practice of smoking; and in the equally fatal practice of drinking coffee; and in playing billiards occasionally; and in taking a glass of wine at dinner, etc. etc. And you are always figuring out how many women have been burned to death because of the dangerous fashion of wearing expansive hoops, etc. etc. You never see more than one side of the question.

You are blind to the fact that most old men in America smoke and drink coffee, although, according to your theory, they ought to have died young; and that hearty old Englishmen drink wine and survive it, and portly old Dutchmen both drink and smoke freely, and yet grow older and fatter all the time. And you never try to find out how much solid comfort, relaxation, and enjoyment a man derives from smoking in the course of a lifetime (which is worth ten times the money he would save by letting it alone), nor the appalling aggregate of happiness lost in a lifetime by your kind of people from not smoking. Of course you can save money by denying yourself all those little vicious enjoyments for fifty years; but then what can you do with it? What use can you put it to? Money can’t save your infinitesimal soul. All the use that money can be put to is to purchase comfort and enjoyment in this life; therefore, as you are an enemy to comfort and enjoyment where is the use of accumulating cash?

It won’t do for you to say that you can use it to better purpose in furnishing a good table, and in charities, and in supporting tract societies, because you know yourself that you people who have no petty vices are never known to give away a cent, and that you stint yourselves so in the matter of food that you are always feeble and hungry. And you never dare to laugh in the daytime for fear some poor wretch, seeing you in a good humor, will try to borrow a dollar of you; and in church you are always down on your knees, with your ears buried in the cushion, when the contribution-box comes around; and you never give the revenue officers a full statement of your income.

Now you know all these things yourself, don’t you? Very well, then, what is the use of your stringing out your miserable lives to a lean and withered old age? What is the use of your saving money that is so utterly worthless to you? In a word, why don’t you go off somewhere and die, and not be always trying to seduce people into becoming as ornery and unlovable as you are yourselves, by your villainous “moral statistics”?

Now, I don’t approve of dissipation, and I don’t indulge in it either; but I haven’t a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices. And so I don’t want to hear from you any more. I think you are the very same man who read me a long lecture last week about the degrading vice of smoking cigars, and then came back, in my absence, with your reprehensible fire-proof gloves on, and carried off my beautiful parlor stove.

 

cigrmaster

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flakey, I forget you are across the pond and don't get our TV commercials. It really was funny if you got the reference.
Pipe smoking adds to the quality of my life so I really don't care if it is harmful. I do not want to live so long that I end up crapping in a diaper and drooling on myself.

 
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