You're right, finding a brick and mortar that would be open to that would certainly make it easier
Hawaii Bans Online Tobacco Sales: SHTF Scenario
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I'm not sure of the legality, but I will probably have to go this route eventually for harder to find blends
My tomatoes and peppers do real well all year round. I'd have to look into tobacco, my fear is even if I could grow it, I wouldn't do the final product justice
If tomatoes do well, you can grow tobacco. I've not grown it, but reading others' experiences tells me growing is easy; the work and skill comes with drying and processing the leaf. Good luck!
Please put your location in your Profile, as people are forgetful.
Why: It will save time for others as to where you live when you mention local stores, weather, tobacco prices, availability, regulations, location of photos, wildfires, air quality, etc. In many instances that saves time for those who read your posts, and for you in not having to reply to inquiries. .
How:
Under your avatar, (top right, left most of three symbols) you choose "Account Details", which brings up "My Account". "My Location" is halfway down. Whatever you're comfortable with- town, city, county, state. province, etc.
My thought is the law makes it illegal for you to order tobacco online. It doesn't prevent a friend from sending you some tobacco since you are not ordering it and shipping it to Hawaii.
From what I've read in my home-growing-baccy research, the only hard condition to get tobacco to harvest is 90 frost free days.
If they can grow it on Cuba and in Siberia, it'll grow in Hawaii.
If they can grow it on Cuba and in Siberia, it'll grow in Hawaii.
It prohibits any shipment. I believe the wording is along the lines of, ‘if one knowingly has tobacco products shipped.’ Here is the bill SB975 HD2 - https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2023/bills/SB975_HD2_.HTM
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We knowingly did not know products were being shipped to us, also by people, whom we don’t personally know, that just keep shipping to us, with no return address, so what are we suppose to do officer! LOL 
Gee officer, we belong to a big community and people already have our addresses from the past, sending us anonymous gifts! LOL
Gee officer, we belong to a big community and people already have our addresses from the past, sending us anonymous gifts! LOL
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There is no penalty for the seller or gifter, only the receiver. Hopefully this law gets amended.We knowingly did not know products were being shipped to us, also by people, whom we don’t personally know, that just keep shipping to us, with no return address, so what are we suppose to do officer! LOL
Gee officer, we belong to a big community and people already have our addresses from the past, sending us anonymous gifts! LOL
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All I can see is that this is stopping online eCommerce sales. As for busting people, having small little packages sent as usual, like any other mail, from friends, family etc., I don’t see the reality in people getting busted this way. Way to much time and effort...
I think generally speaking if you can grow tomato and peppers, you can grow tobacco. They are all part of the nightshade family.
I'm in my second year now growing different Virginia types and my average timeline is 6-8 weeks from seed to transplant pending my weather conditions. Then maybe another 6-8 weeks before I start pulling the lowest leaves. Then maybe another 4-6 weeks until the full thing is done.
I sowed my seeds on 3/19 this year under grow lights. Planted to beds on 5/22 (they could have gone a week or two sooner but I kept them out due to frost). I might get to pull first leaves in maybe 2 weeks....will see. Last year I pulled my first in the first week of July, but this year the early May cold has things a little delayed.
Last year from seed to pulling the last batch of leaves out of my sweat box, I went March to late September/October which included at least 4 weeks in the box. End to end, depending on what you are growing, it's a long time investment. That's been my experience so far anyway.
You on Maui too? I live in LahainaOr members here...
Where are you at on the island?
Definitely sounds labor intensive, still there is a certain satisfaction in enjoying something you grew/made yourself. I'm impressed, I may have to try at some point. How did your harvest smoke?
Haven’t tried it yet. I sealed them all up and put them away to rest. I’ll probably try some at some point this year.
Banning a legally sold, traded, and gifted commodity, because you feel like it is completely ridiculous and straight-up unconstitutional. This is getting out of hand, I feel like Hawaii's Tobacco Ban and Australia's insane Covid Lock Down are testing grounds to see just how far you can push people before they crack. We moved back to the Mainland a while back but all of my wife's family are on Maui. Are you telling me I can't send her uncles Cigars even as gifts? Time to rally and send out those mystery boxes folks.
Well, Hawaii is not the first state to ban online tobacco sales maybe they've gone a bit further by apparently trying to sweep up P2P transactions. The ban on shipping tobacco is similar to states that ban the shipping of wine or spirits, some of these bans have been around for years. I'm skeptical that there's a line of approach via the legal system that's a sure path to overturning these laws. I'd be reluctant to advertise my willingness to engage in schemes to get around the law in a public forum -- YMMV.
I hear ya. The P2P is what gets my goat, there are rights and privileges, sending my uncles Cigars I consider a right. Forward shipping has been an industry workaround forever and banning it , is not borderline tyrannical it’s straight up tyrannical, but that’s just my 2 cents on the matter.
