Have Difficulties Finding Group 2 Sized , Straight Billiard Pipes

[Celius]

I would like to get a new (not estate) straight smooth billiard in group size 2.
Preferably French or English and with a metal/silver band,
Even thought thats not mandatory.

So far I only found only Dunhill pipes of this size.

Any leads or advise?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Ropp?

 

[BROBS]

I fucking hate when people call a pipe by group size. You are probably only finding Dunhills because they are the only company to use group size. It really has little to do with the pipe or chamber size.

 

[Celius]

I fucking hate when people call a pipe by group size. You are probably only finding Dunhills because they are the only company to use group size. It really has little to do with the pipe or chamber size.

Group Size is very often used as reference point for size of the pipe.
Nobody expecting it to be exact.
Its more or less to get an understanding.

You could also be more fruendly/civilised in your replies.

 

[rhoadsie]

Have you tried the "the pipe locator" function at smokingpipes.com? You can sort based on shape, weight and chamber dimensions.

The Pipe Locator

www.smokingpipes.com

 

[cosmicfolklore]

That group size thing is a Dunhill term used to identify the size of the briar used to make the pipe, and has little to nothing to do with chamber sizes.

Most of us would be glad to help you look. What chamber size are you looking for?

 

[donjgiles]

I would like to get a new (not estate) straight smooth billiard in group size 2.
Preferably French or English and with a metal/silver band,
Even thought thats not mandatory.

So far I only found only Dunhill pipes of this size.

Any leads or advise?

I am pretty sure I have an unsmoked French GBD if you are interested. It is a rather small sized billiard, no silver band however.

 

[rhoadsie]

Also, Iwan Ries gives a dunhill group size equivalent in each pipe description.

Largest Selection of New Pipes

We currently have over 12,000 pipes in stock. While some pieces are one of a kind, many of the pipes pictured are representative examples, and actual pipe may vary. For more information please give us a call during business hours, and we will be happy to discuss particular pipes with you.

www.iwanries.com

 

[Celius]

Have you tried the "the pipe locator" function at smokingpipes.com? You can sort based on shape, weight and chamber dimensions.

The Pipe Locator

www.smokingpipes.com

Yes, a while ago, but couldnt find anything. But I will check again.

 

[Celius]

That group size thing is a Dunhill term used to identify the size of the briar used to make the pipe, and has little to nothing to do with chamber sizes.

Most of us would be glad to help you look. What chamber size are you looking for?

I would disagree, plus , minus the measurements are similar .

 

[Celius]

I am pretty sure I have an unsmoked French GBD if you are interested. It is a rather small sized billiard, no silver band however.

Is it a pre Cadogan one?
If yes I might be interested.

 

[Celius]

Also, Iwan Ries gives a dunhill group size equivalent in each pipe description.

Largest Selection of New Pipes

We currently have over 12,000 pipes in stock. While some pieces are one of a kind, many of the pipes pictured are representative examples, and actual pipe may vary. For more information please give us a call during business hours, and we will be happy to discuss particular pipes with you.

www.iwanries.com

Thanks, do they also have the option to search by the group size as criteria?

 

[donjgiles]

Is it a pre Cadogan one?
If yes I might be interested.

I really do not know when it was made, I will get a photo of it for you and you can decide.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I would disagree

It has been posted many time, and you can find it other places online. The briar is sorted to size and quality and group sizes are assigned before the pipe is even made. People that are very familiar with Dunhills still use the terms for non-Dunhill pipes, but for the majority of pipesmoker, especially on this forum, it doesn't mean anything. Chamber diameter x depth is how most pipe retailers classify their pipes. It just makes it easier to communicate.

But, don't feel bad, everyone jumped on me for using Morse code to reply to posts.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

.70" x 1.22" is a pretty common bowl size. You should have no problems finding that. Most pipes fall within this size.

 

[Celius]

It has been posted many time, and you can find it other places online. The briar is sorted to size and quality and group sizes are assigned before the pipe is even made. People that are very familiar with Dunhills still use the terms for non-Dunhill pipes, but for the majority of pipesmoker, especially on this forum, it doesn't mean anything. Chamber diameter x depth is how most pipe retailers classify their pipes. It just makes it easier to communicate.

But, don't feel bad, everyone jumped on me for using Morse code to reply to posts.

If you compare various Dunhill group size 2 pipes, you will see that the measurments are mor or less the same.

Now obviously you wont find exact same pipe length and bowl height for pipes of other makers, but again, it will have more or less simillar proportions.
So if somebody speaks about a group size 2 straight billiard, you know which measurements approximately to expect.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

If you compare various Dunhill group size 2 pipes, you will see that the measurments are mor or less the same.

Yes, but why not just use the measurements that most retailers use. That will just make your search easier, and we would all know with more precision what you are looking for.

I'm not getting on to you. I am just trying to help. Using Dunhill group sizes limits the people who will respond to mostly Dunhill folks. But, what do I know. It's not like I am here very much, ha ha.

Good luck on your quest, and I hope that looking for a .70 x 1.22" chamber is a little more easier now.

 

[Celius]

.70" x 1.22" is a pretty common bowl size. You should have no problems finding that. Most pipes fall within this size.

Its not very common nowadays.
Most pipes are midium to large (Group size 4)
But I would be happy if you can refer me to examples of well proportioned modern small pipes. That's basically the original reason for the tread

 

[seanv]

Bend your mind and look for a new pipe based on the size like cosmic says. You will have an easier time. Once you own it, call it whatever you want. Good luck in your search.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

But I would be happy if you can refer me to examples of well proportioned modern small pipes. That's basically the original reason for the tread

Sure...

The Pipe Locator

www.smokingpipes.com

The pipe locator at smokingpipes.com is an excellent place to start. Even if you eventually go with another source for your pipe, you can get a good start by clicking on the range of bowl diameters.

I really hope this helps. And, be sure to show off your new pipe.