Haka/Maori/NZ

[bullet08]

I love watching Haka. I mean who doesn't. It's almost up there with bagpipes. But I don't know much about them. I know when there are any sporting event with NZ, NZ team will do one. Like All Black and so on. Very graphic with wide eyes, tongues hanging out, giving Italian gesture for up yours.. Seems like it's almost like some type of a war dance. I just hope the military won't do haka in a field. That would probably ruin the element of surprise. Can you imagine Anzac getting ready to charge out of trenches in WWI, and Germans hearing haka performance? Like the pipes in WWI. First shots were usually ended up with pipers hence pipers only at rear after WWI. Tho, there are stories of pipers leading the charge after WWI. Just saw video of NZ soldiers doing haka front of British Gurkha. Gurkha's did kukuri "dance", more like a drill. Haka was much more spectacular.

 

[mortonbriar]

The Maori battalion did use the haka in the trenches in WW1, fighting the turks at Gallipoli. In some instances, the sound of the pre-charge haka emptied the enemy trenches, so they were found unoccupied when stormed.

 

[yanoJL]

I've seen the football team from the university of Hawaii do it before a game, too. The warriors. I also think it's cool.
It doesn't seem to influence the final score, tho. The game I went to, Hawaii lost by 50.
But still, I like seeing it.

 

[bullet08]

I've seen the football team from the university of Hawaii do it before a game, too. The warriors. I also think it's cool.
It doesn't seem to influence the final score, tho. The game I went to, Hawaii lost by 50.
But still, I like seeing it.

Hawaiian guys a huge. Who were they playing? 50 is a lot. Like highschool vs. college a lot.

 

[warren]

I enjoy the harmonies most but, can also enjoy a haka.

Who were they playing? 50 is a lot. Like highschool vs. college a lot.

When graduating high school as a good football player would you chose "Two a days" in Hawaii, trade winds silent in August or, U of Washington, some place in Colorado, or other reasonably temperate location. I know my choice!

 

[bullet08]

I enjoy the harmonies most but, can also enjoy a haka.


When graduating high school as a good football player would you chose "Two a days" in Hawaii, trade winds silent in August or, U of Washington, some place in Colorado, or other reasonably temperate location. I know my choice!

Well. If you put it that way x)

 

[kcghost]

Haka are very entertaining when well done.

 

[yanoJL]

Hawaiian guys a huge. Who were they playing? 50 is a lot. Like highschool vs. college a lot.

Yeah, it is a lot. They were playing the Florida Gators. It was back in 2008 when the Gators were ridiculously good. The Tebow years. I think it was the first game of the season.

 

[gubbyduffer]

Haka are very entertaining when well done.

It certainly is. Sends a chill down the spine. It's come a long way from the one performed by the rugby team in the 70's.

 

[Flatfish]

In 1972, a town near me (Llanelli) beat the All Blacks 9 - 3. The day the pubs in Llanelli ran dry
The try scorer later taught me in school.

 

[jpmcwjr]

It certainly is. Sends a chill down the spine. It's come a long way from the one performed by the rugby team in the 70's.

I'll say. It looks like they were just learning a Haka.

 

[mingc]

I know the modern All Blacks do it to lay down a challenge and to pump themselves up. I've heard players say that sometimes it pumps them up too much. Opposing teams use it to pump themselves up too.

Other Pacific island nations do perform their own versions, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, but none are as belligerent as the Kiwi haka.

I've always wondered why Western hemisphere teams are not allowed to return the challenge by say, mooning the opposing team, as that would seem a totally culturally appropriate response.

I normally skip past the haka when I watch an All Black game. Just like national anthems, it's the same thing all over again and just delays the game for me.

Anyway, It seems the Kiwis do the haka not just in contests but for everything else: welcoming foreign dignitaries, greeting elders, weddings, funerals, retirement send-offs, etc. I assume they have different hakas for those.

 

[bullet08]

I know the modern All Blacks do it to lay down a challenge and to pump themselves up. I've heard players say that sometimes it pumps them up too much. Opposing teams use it to pump themselves up too.

Other Pacific island nations do perform their own versions, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, but none are as belligerent as the Kiwi haka.

I've always wondered why Western hemisphere teams are not allowed to return the challenge by say, mooning the opposing team, as that would seem a totally culturally appropriate response.

I normally skip past the haka when I watch an All Black game. Just like national anthems, it's the same thing all over again and just delays the game for me.

Anyway, It seems the Kiwis do the haka not just in contests but for everything else: welcoming foreign dignitaries, greeting elders, weddings, funerals, retirement send-offs, etc. I assume they have different hakas for those.

Remind me of a Monty Python saying. "I will wiggle my private part in your general direction."

 

[Ahi Ka]

@bullet08 you might enjoy this short film

For those genuinely interested in haka there is a lot of information online. For me when I witness haka being performed I hear the soundscape of this island woven into it. When I perform one, it reminds me that we are not alone.

 

[warren]

Thank you so much for that!

 

[Ahi Ka]

Yesterday’s burial of Kiingi Tuheitia Pootatau Te Wherowhero VII and the succession of Te Arikinui Kuini Nga Wai Te Hono I Te Po displayed incredible examples of haka and other Māori performaning arts and traditions.

I doubt that I will see a tangi of this magnitude again in my lifetime. The whole video is worth a watch, even just playing in the background.

I’m hesitant to post this on this forum, but I thought I would for those of you who are genuinely interested in Māori culture and may not of had the chance to see this elsewhere. If it’s not your cup of tea, no worries, just move on

Kia tuuturu te kotahitanga

 

[VDL_Piper]

I don’t like it because it means the Wallabies are about to be beaten again

 

[Ahi Ka]

I don’t like it because it means the Wallabies are about to be beaten again

I’m more worried about South Africa

 

[VDL_Piper]

I’m more worried about South Africa

They are a powerhouse atm. I watched that game in the wee hours last weekend and NZ nearly had them but it just slipped away at the end. Very keen to see how NZ adapt this weekend, I’m tipping them for a win.

 

[warren]

A solemn occasion for sure. Some of it brought a tear or two to my eye. Thanks!

Only 27 years old. "I have a loud mouth," she admitted when visiting England. "So I need to be careful."

I like her style already.