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Briar Lee

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Sep 4, 2021
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I was there during the Three Days of the Glorious Demise of Pa!

The Ma and Pa series ran in The Index at Hermatige from maybe (?) about 1920ish until the last installment in 1980, when the heavenly wings of angels lifted Ma up to where Pa made sure she wouldn’t have to cross Jordan alone.


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Vernon Publishing has been working with an intern from the University of Missouri School of Journalism this past week. Junior Genevieve Smith is developing newsletters for the six newspapers owned by Vernon Publishing including The Tipton Times, The Advertiser, The Lake Sun, The Hermitage Index, The Rich Hill Mining Review, and The St. Clair Courier. The newsletters are a service designed to help customers get the important news items in their area at a glance. Those interested in getting the newsletter can contact their local paper office for details.


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In that series in The Hermatige Index now owned by Vernon Publishing Ma was my grandmother and Pa was my grandfather and Sy Thomas was my Uncle Jiggs and my Mama Miss Lois was Saydee,,,,.

And Briar Lee hisownself was Saydee’s Young’un what lived way over on the tother side a Humansville a Half Mile South of Bug Tussle.

Change Jed to Pa and Granny to Ma and Jethro Bodine to Sy Thomas and Ella Mae to Saydee and Welcome to the Beverly Hillbillies from Bug Tussle!



My grandmother did not create or write even one episode of the Beverly Hillibillies.

But she got the Beverly Hillbillies to send her an advance order for 200 copies of her 1963 book Remunishuns of an Ozark Hillbilly

And my cousin Pammy has all the relics and receipts to prove it.


My grandfather didn’t know where he was the last three days of his life from advanced dementia complicated by infection from an ingrown toenail.

But the story, would beat Three Wooden Crosses down a flight of stairs.


I saw my grandmother light his last Camel

And he said Thank You Baby Doll

And my stepfather Hadley, removed it.

(Then came a two week wake and funeral.:) )

Death from fond memories and neglect is serenely peaceful, I’ve seen it.

Not even remotely, not a minuscule as painful as dying a Carl Dean.

Every installment of Ma and Pa in The Index and each episode of The Beverly Hillbillies Pa is the star of the show.

And Pa and his son and daughter are movie stars.

Where did that leave old Granny.;)
 
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Briar Lee

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What a sad ending. Poor guys. It's not fair in the last years of old age, we have to go through such horrible hardships of degradation. God bless them and welcome them into his kingdom.

Seriously, let’s hope we all get to enter heaven as easily.

Death took Betsy so quick she could not open her dog’s cage.

And Gene did not die of dehydration or starve. He was able to eat and drink.

His death certificate reads coronary artery disease complicated by advanced demintia, and he died at his home, not a nursing home.

He died of a broken heart.

And his Betsy in heaven was so glad he did, because nobody else would or could possibly have loved her Gene as much as she did in the nursing home.

Now as for the dog——

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In late February, the couple was found dead in their New Mexico home, a heartrending end to the life they shared. Arakawa, 65, died of hantavirus and days later, Hackman, 95, died of heart disease, the New Mexico medical investigator’s office revealed Friday.

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Alejo R.

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The question is, why are two wealthy seniors living in a house without any assistance? It doesn't seem reasonable. Other than that, the chronology seems clear, she died of Hantavirus, probably the hemorrhagic variety, not the pulmonary one since people usually go to the doctor when they have trouble breathing, and he, with his age and Alzheimer's, couldn't take care of himself or the dog.
 

Briar Lee

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The question is, why are two wealthy seniors living in a house without any assistance? It doesn't seem reasonable. Other than that, the chronology seems clear, she died of Hantavirus, probably the hemorrhagic variety, not the pulmonary one since people usually go to the doctor when they have trouble breathing, and he, with his age and Alzheimer's, couldn't take care of himself or the dog.
Famous movie stars crave privacy in their old age.



God bless Betsy wherever in heaven she is.

She protected Gene’s image to her dying breath.
 
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warren

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Death took Betsy so quick she could not open her dog’s cage.

And Gene did not die of dehydration or starve. He was able to eat and drink.
How are you so sure about that. Nothing in the actor's stomach. And she was quite sick for a week or so. Speculation is one thing, making up facts is quite another. I suppose it's along the lines of filling in the blanks in one's mind and making up scenarios for the preferred story-line. Entertaining as that may be for some, it is a waste of one's time.

We haven't a clue was to the state of the actor's dementia. He could have been horribly scared and alone, like a child. He might have had sentient moment here and there and fully realized what was occurring. She could have been in great pain but, so dedicated to her husband that she ignored her health trying to care for him. Further, she may have locked the dog up, fed ans watered him, not wanting him underfoot as she tried to care for her husband.
Not one of us has any direct knowledge. Not one!
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
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Either way it is a sad way to go.

It’s a glorious death for both Gene and Betsy!

About forty years ago the famous Gene Hackman, married for thirty years, and a gorgeous twenty something Steinway player, risked every thing in order to live it up in mansion high on a hilltop.

Then four decades later, God called them home and made Gene’s first family look sorta bad, you know?

 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
How are you so sure about that. Nothing in the actor's stomach. And she was quite sick for a week or so. Speculation is one thing, making up facts is quite another. I suppose it's along the lines of filling in the blanks in one's mind and making up scenarios for the preferred story-line. Entertaining as that may be for some, it is a waste of one's time.

We haven't a clue was to the state of the actor's dementia. He could have been horribly scared and alone, like a child. He might have had sentient moment here and there and fully realized what was occurring. She could have been in great pain but, so dedicated to her husband that she ignored her health trying to care for him. Further, she may have locked the dog up, fed ans watered him, not wanting him underfoot as she tried to care for her husband.
Not one of us has any direct knowledge. Not one!

Thank the good Lord for death certificates.

An elected official of the State of New Mexico,

Put the end to the legend of Betsy and Gene.

She pitched over dead in the bathroom and Gene pitched over dead in an advanced state of dementia (but not starved or dehydrated) in the mud room.

Natural causes.

Let’s see now what kind of funeral their kinfolks give them, won’t that be a press event?.:)
 
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condorlover1

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Death is never pretty but is unfortunately inevitable. As someone once said to me after getting 'injured' far from these shores "Death is really boring. I wouldn't recommend you have anything to do with it".
 

warren

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"Death is really boring. I wouldn't recommend you have anything to do with it".
Been there, done that, in a hospital luckily, with a dedicated nurse and her team. I found the whole episode intriguing to say the least. While I'm not anxious to explore death further in the near future, I am looking forward to the experience when it occurs. "Near death experiences", as related by survivors, make for fascinating reading. Mine included my grandson calling me back, he was miles away at the time and the usual bright light but, it was an aura not, a light at the end of the tunnel. Very intriguing indeed.
 

anotherbob

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Been there, done that, in a hospital luckily, with a dedicated nurse and her team. I found the whole episode intriguing to say the least. While I'm not anxious to explore death further in the near future, I am looking forward to the experience when it occurs. "Near death experiences", as related by survivors, make for fascinating reading. Mine included my grandson calling me back, he was miles away at the time and the usual bright light but, it was an aura not, a light at the end of the tunnel. Very intriguing indeed.
Speaking from experience. One of the strange things is the experience of ones life flashing before their eyes. Strangest part is how clear it is including deeper understanding then is possible in day to day life.
For me all it took was being 100 sure I wasn't going to make it. Turns out that part was very wrong.
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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The question is, why are two wealthy seniors living in a house without any assistance? It doesn't seem reasonable.
Personal choice. They preferred privacy and, I understand this fully, were probably resisting giving in to old age, quietly surrendering abilities they'd taken so casually in younger years. I suspect and, reverently hope, their lives were well lived. Too many folks forget the "in sickness and in health, 'til death do you part." I cared for my wife until she passed with all the loving care I could muster as she deteriorated before my eyes. It's wasn't hard, it was simply keeping a promise made thirty plus years ago. There was a "hospice" professional who came once a week to give me a break and monitor Sally's medical condition.

Perhaps they rebuffed relatives' insistence that they hire in-residence assistance, preferring to be left to their own devices, taking life as it came at them. I'd like to believe this was so.
 

HawkeyeLinus

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Oct 16, 2020
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The question is, why are two wealthy seniors living in a house without any assistance? It doesn't seem reasonable. Other than that, the chronology seems clear, she died of Hantavirus, probably the hemorrhagic variety, not the pulmonary one since people usually go to the doctor when they have trouble breathing, and he, with his age and Alzheimer's, couldn't take care of himself or the dog.

She was only 65, no reason she'd need assistance - not really a question and perfectly reasonable, IMO. There isn't any suggestion his condition was something she wasn't able to manage but her age isn't an indicator for assistance in any way.
 

warren

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Sep 13, 2013
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her age isn't an indicator for assistance in any way.
Her physical health, at the time was certainly an indicator. Medical assistance could certainly have helped her. Perhaps healed her and prolonged her time with her husband. But, she made a choice/decision and, there were consequences (Crap! I sound like a broken record! Sorry.). A sad story to be sure but, one can't simply overlook the choices made. Sometimes the caregiver needs to care for themselves in order to continue on. I'm not judging mind you, simply commenting from my own experiences.

If I'd come up sick during my wife's illness I might have made the same sort of decision. Putting another's care over over your own is admirable but, in this case, it was also tragic.
 
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