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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
.38 caliber is .355; .36 caliber or 9mm is .356; 357magnum caliber is .357.

The Navy 36 Colt spit out six 80 grain 38 caliber balls at a thousand feet a second, and mine is sighted at fifty yards.

Usually a cavalryman carried several, or extra loaded cylinders.

The town of Humansville was founded by a polymath named James Human, who must have been adopted by a Christian couple. He spoke several languages, was a lawyer and a judge, and leader in the Slicker War, and had a taste for women, outliving three or four wives and having children in his seventies with twenty some year old wives. He was half Cherokee and half African, in a lily white world.

When I was a kid a lot of other kids claimed to be related to him and Jesse James, Cole Younger, until our town historian Popcorn Mary Owens found Judge Human’s photo and the records of his fearless bravery as a Unionist during the Great Rebellion.

After that they still were related to famous outlaws and rebels, but not Judge Human.:)

Popcorn Mary found this photo from the state archives from when he was a Representative. He was in his late sixties or early seventies.

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He packed a pair of Navy Colts.

I’d not want him shooting at me, by the looks of him.
 
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
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Casa Grande, AZ
And 44 black powder is .452 (+/- a few thou), and cartridge .44 is .431😉

.38 caliber is .355; .36 caliber or 9mm is .356; 357magnum caliber is .357.
In smokeless cartridge (jacketed-numbers are a little different for softer than hard cast lead alloys).



But what’s the true size of 6mm and 9mm pipe filters?
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
Nice. Who did the engraved cartridge conversion cylinder (I’m assuming such, as .44-40 is a cartridge, and the loading gate isn’t cut to clear), or is it a 44 cap and ball?

In say the 1870s and 1880s, when cartridge revolvers took over from percussion, if you hear a ballad about a cowboy with a 44 it’s a 44-40.

The 44-40 was 44 caliber (true size .427) and used 40 grains of black powder, which until near the turn of the century black powder was gunpowder.

 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
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Connecticut, USA
Double action 38RF, that’s quite a collector’s piece right there.
Yours?
I wish ... for two ! No not mine. I was intrigued by HunterTRW's comment about The Shootist and wanted to see what the first Remington revolvers looked like and happened upon an engraved version as he said so I posted the pic to supplement his comment.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,690
18,834
Connecticut, USA
And 44 black powder is .452 (+/- a few thou), and cartridge .44 is .431😉


In smokeless cartridge (jacketed-numbers are a little different for softer than hard cast lead alloys).



But what’s the true size of 6mm and 9mm pipe filters?
I thought I was responding to the modern revolver comment. As for filters, it doesn't matter, the stem bore size does and my Pete Pub is bigger than 9mm and they tend to slide into the chamber. The vauen's have a ridge that catches and holds the filter in place. I can't find my micrometers ... I think my brother permanently borrowed them. ;)
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
12,675
20,294
SE PA USA
Truly incredible. I'm a fairly young guy, I'm 27. My own great grandmother born was in 1917.
My father was born in 1919. I’m 61.
My big gunsmithing project I want to take on is to build a custom scout rifle. I own the rifle (Winchester Model 70) and have all the parts spec'ed but will need to hire out some of the work because I lack the tools and skills.
I built a Mosin M38 into a very handy Scout, with a scope mount that replaces the rear lead sight, and Leupold Scout scope that cost 4x what the rifle did! I’ve yet to work up loads for it, but factory loads leave too much unburnt propellant because of the shorter barrel.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,960
14,330
Humansville Missouri
All this black powder talk caused me to go to the one gun shop left I know that sells black powder after I got a check up today.

The young man and his wife that run the shop told me Goex is back in business but they’d not got any in yet.

Black powder, is black powder.

If you have a wish to face your maker ahead of schedule you can make your own, at home. It’s not advisable, as the factories that make it blow up on a semi regular basis.

I bought two pounds of Schutzen brand FFFG for $25 a pound and had to sign for it.

That’s enough for 200 70 grain 12 gauge shotgun shells or 500 30 grain revolver loads.

All for the cost of two pounds of Buoy Gold.

I read today unopened black powder lasts utterly forever.

But insurance and fire codes limit you to fifty pounds.