I'll bet a lot of money that an 8shot target load from 15 feet would absolutely stop you, unless you were wearing a bespoke kevlar track suit made somewhere in the mountains of Serbia.
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I'll bet a lot of money that an 8shot target load from 15 feet would absolutely stop you, unless you were wearing a bespoke kevlar track suit made somewhere in the mountains of Serbia.
You would be surprised what adrenaline can do. You want to incapacitate not just injure.
that’s a dumb comparison because I’d also stop if you shot me with a BB gun. However a nude PCP enraged man will not stop if you shoot him with #8 load.
Did you do the stippling too?
I love the ghost trigger!
Ghost triggers are inferior and fail. Lone wolf is much better quality than the tin junk ghost puts out.
Were you using a modified cylinder choke? My hits at 10 yards were from a straight cylinder. Not saying you're wrong, just curious.
#8 shot at 15 feet will bust two pine 2x4's in half real good. Done it IRL, didn't just read about it on the Interwebs...
Have you ever seen what a 556 will do to the human head? PCP or not it all stops
Next time a 2x4 needs stopped I’ll keep that in mind
so a brittle piece of pine = human flesh and muscle?
the force cracked it. You could also kick them and do the same thing.
A rather useless piece of trivia. In all my years as a copper I was never set upon by a brace of pine 2 bys. Never even threatened.
A .32 will go through an aluminum pole. And not stop a crazy MFer
Now stand 30ft back and shoot a hanging wool army blanket. The pellets will drop to the ground.
It's however I purchased it. It is a Mossberg 590 I think so the barrel is shorter.
At the range I was in charge of we required people to stand back at least 45 feet from the patterning board, and use nothing larger that 7 1/2 shot.
Why?
Because that was the least amount of distance required to avoid damage to the patterning board. The spread and loss of velocity of the shot at that distance.
The discussion here is generally about home defense, i.e. within your own home. Distances of 7-12 feet.
If the interior of your house has distances of 30’ to engage intruders, then you can probably afford to arm yourself with M16, 100 round drum and an M203 slung underneath...
Well, an 18” barrel isn’t going to hold the pattern together as well as a 28” barrel like a trap gun.
But it’s all academic... A center mass hit that produces a 2 1/2 a 3” hole going in is going to stop a threat.
Depends on the twist rate of the barrel. And while I can’t recall what the twist rate for an SKS or an AK is, they generally spin the bullet to stabilize out to several hundred yards.
So let’s look at projectiles. The Russians did develop a projectile with a steel core that had a hollow space up front so that when it impacted something the core would shift changing the balance and allowing the projectile to yaw.
I load 7.62x39, 29 grains H4895 compressed, under .32 caliber 100 grain Hornady XTP’s. They don’t yaw.
Cantaloupe sized holes are a result of cavitation...
Pine is not brittle... A rule of thumb for penetration around WWII was if a projectile could penetrate a 1/2” pine board, it was lethal.
The force? Naw, there were no Jedi Knights, Luke Skywalker wasn’t there either. It was the impact of 1 1/8 ounce of a few hundred lead balls all tightly bunched together.
You are very correct. I took it to the range so I could see what dispersion I could expect. I thought it would disperse a bit more than it did. There's no question getting hit with that would put you down for the count.
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