GH&Co Brown Irish #4 Rope --- Love the New Package Method/Coil Size

[georged]

This might be old news (I haven't had to buy any in a while), but the massive triple-layer-coil looks to have reached the end of the line in favor of something more manageable.

Hooray sez me! "Wrestling the Snake" while slicing was the only thing about #4 that I found annoying. Especially so the deeper you went... the innermost coil almost took two people to keep straight and still, it was so springy.

Now it's just a box of gentle, banana-curve segments almost like cigars.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Make sure you cut slits in the film before you microwave 'em.

 

[georged]

Make sure you cut slits in the film before you microwave 'em.

No worries.

I usually pan fry (with one of those iron plate widgets to keep 'em flat), and have a package of Brioche hot dog buns and some good German mustard ready and waiting.

Dinner tonight is gonna be GOOD!

 

[Briarcutter]

No worries.

I usually pan fry (with one of those iron plate widgets to keep 'em flat), and have a package of Brioche hot dog buns and some good German mustard ready and waiting.

Dinner tonight is gonna be GOOD!

I triple dog dare you

 

[ak2000]

Isn't Brown #4 a Samuel Gawith tobacco?

 

[gawithhoggarth]

Isn't Brown #4 a Samuel Gawith tobacco?

Yes but this is Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X as it states on the box.

 

[ak2000]

Yes but this is Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X as it states on the box.

The OP title is "GH&Co Brown Irish #4 Rope", hence my comment

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

@gawithhoggarth what sets the two ropes apart?

 

[sablebrush52]

This might be old news (I haven't had to buy any in a while), but the massive triple-layer-coil looks to have reached the end of the line in favor of something more manageable.

Hooray sez me! "Wrestling the Snake" while slicing was the only thing about #4 that I found annoying. Especially so the deeper you went... the innermost coil almost took two people to keep straight and still, it was so springy.

Now it's just a box of gentle, banana-curve segments almost like cigars.



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Looks a lot like what Satchel leaves on her papers.
If you want, I can collect some to send to you.

 

[georged]

Looks a lot like what Satchel leaves on her papers.
If you want, I can collect some to send to you.

People always warned me you were a meanie, and now I see why.

It's cuz you're a meanie.

Wait till I find a way to let Satchel know... you'll be sorry.

 

[georged]

The OP title is "GH&Co Brown Irish #4 Rope", hence my comment

I've been smoking that Lake District outfit's big brown rope (as well as its smaller diameter brother Brown Bogie) for a quarter century. So the old names for it---the ones I "grew up with" (so to speak)---are what my olde brayne defaults to calling it.

No worries about some sort of change(s) to it related to the name shift. Not that you can see or taste, anyway. I'm already several bowls into the batch in the photos, and it's indistinguishable from---and every bit as glorious as---the 15-year-old Lake District Outfit Big Brown Rope stored in my basement.

 

[ak2000]

Now I'm wondering if the current Samuel Gawith Brown No 4 and Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X are actually different...

 

[ak2000]

I've been smoking that Lake District outfit's big brown rope (as well as its smaller diameter brother Brown Bogie) for a quarter century. So the old names for it---the ones I "grew up with" (so to speak)---are what my olde brayne defaults to calling it.

No worries about some sort of change(s) to it related to the name shift. Not that you can see or taste, anyway. I'm already several bowls into the batch in the photos, and it's indistinguishable from---and every bit as glorious as---the 15-year-old Lake District Outfit Big Brown Rope stored in my basement.

My comment was directed @gawithhoggarth since their (non) reply to me equates to "read the label on the box pictured ya wanker". Call it whatever you wish sir

 

[georged]

Now I'm wondering if the current Samuel Gawith Brown No 4 and Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X are actually different...

Depends on how you define "different"...

If the ladies in the spinning room are drinking Theakston one day and Guinness the next, there could be micro- manifestations of it, right?

 

[gawithhoggarth]

My comment was directed @gawithhoggarth since their (non) reply to me equates to "read the label on the box pictured ya wanker". Call it whatever you wish sir

Maybe the 'non reply' was because they were in bed!!! Your response was posted at 2am my time.

Both Samuel Gawith Brown No4 and Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X are sold.

 

[karam]

Now I'm wondering if the current Samuel Gawith Brown No 4 and Gawith Hoggarth Brown Irish X are actually different...

Having smoked both before the merger/acquisition I can say they were different for sure, with Brown No4 being considerably stronger than Brown Irish X, haven't smoked Brown No4 since.

 

[condorlover1]

I have to say the artwork on the new Gawith & Hogwarts boxes is quite nice, although what the Turkish dude is doing hanging out on a doorstep in the Lakelands I have no idea. I suppose it could the first owner and founder of the local 'all you can eat' Kebab Shop as he contemplates the launch of his locally famous Rose Geranium flavored Doner Kebab to appeal to the G&H workers at the snuff mill. The Black Irish X used to come in a huge coil like a bee hive with a nail to hold the whole thing together, same as the Brown Twist so I will be interested to see if there is any difference.

 

[gawithhoggarth]

The Saracen was the old way that a tobacconist was advertised in the UK in the 17th and 18th century. The original Saracen was mounted on the wall outside the old factory and is a symbol well known through out Kendal. He has always been depicted on the twist packaging. The artwork on the GH boxes is of the outside of the old factory and I think the flaps have windows on showing the machinery inside.

Nowadays he has been restored and sits in the entrance to our offices.

The coils used to be a kilo I think and sold out to shops to chop up into small pieces and sell. We no longer do these and for FDA regulations twist to the USA is mostly done in 500g.

Brown twist and black twist are essentially the same, but to get the black twist, it has oil applied and then is cooked before being pressed. This gives a different strength and flavour. T

There are 2 sizes of brown GH twist and 3 sizes of black GH twist. And then sliced twist and flavoured ones.

There are then SG twists.

 

[condorlover1]

@gawithhoggarth : Are you saying you don't sell the complete coils anymore? Even in the U.K?

 

[gawithhoggarth]

No. They used to be sold so shops could display them but that is pretty much outlawed now in all but the very few specialists. Plus with the duty/taxes here a kg of twist is pretty damn expensive. We have not done them for a while.