General MacArthur's Pipe

[Ziggywm]

For the corncob smokers among us, including me. I was staying at the Marine Memorial Hotel in San Fancisco where I used their library, which was also a museum. Under glass was Gen. Mac's pipe and a great story with it. I thought it should be shared here. You should be able to expand the picture and read the story. Enjoy and Semper Fi.

 

[workman]

Nice. I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. Those guys were quite unique.

 

[smudgersmissingleg]

Cool pipe and story.

 

[Ziggywm]

Cool pipe and story.

Yes. Gen. MacAuthur could of hung that Marine's ass out to dry. Instead, he showed grace. Furthermore, Marine Farum could have lied. Honor reigned.

 

[FurCoat]

Great story, thank you for sharing it with us. I have a MM 5 star that I smoke on patriotc holidays. I only smoke MM Independence Day and American Patriot on those days. If anyone hasn't given MM blends a try, I recommend them. Good honest no frills tobacco blended by Russ.

 

[gamzultovah]

I really like the way men used to interact back then. Something so simple, thoughtful and witty as MacArthurs answer is rarely uttered these days.

 

[anotherbob]

I can't help it. But I don't fully buy it. It feels like one of those stories that slowly sheds little bits of fact over time. Could just be me. Either way still pretty cool.

 

[Ziggywm]

I can't help it. But I don't fully buy it. It feels like one of those stories that slowly sheds little bits of fact over time.

I am attaching some pictures so you will know this wasn't some 'Side Show Bob's Emporium'. A lot of Marines died so you can be a cold cynic questioning every thing and everyone you want to in the freedom of your comfortable chair. Perhaps you had to be there where a stone from the flag raising on Iwo Jima was brought back and donated by a Marine. Is that fake too? Or one of the pens used in the surrender of Japan by MacArthur -- is everything faked? Well, the honor of the men who served isn't fake in my book.

 

[aquadoc]

AnotherBob is allowed his opinion without you making it personal. Did you raise the flag at Iwo Jima? Zalusky, the stone donator, did not. In fact, the 6 men that did were in a squad that included Sargent Ernie Provost (a now-deceased but always remembered dear friend and colleague and not one of the 6 raising the flag), and I can assure you there was no Zalusky nearby...so how in the hell could he have picked up the exact stone where the flag was planted from a field of stones on that hill?

Also, almost 2x as many US Army Soldiers died in the Pacific theater than in the USMC and USN.

 

[kcghost]

What a cold heartless bunch of people we have here. If I had discovered one of MacArthur's pipe I would cherish it forever. And for whatever it is worth one of the men who raised the flag was a Navy corpsmen.

 

[mso489]

MacArther was a complicated character, but he had a cultivated sense of drama, so I tend to believe this anecdote. Interestingly, when he went to West Point, his mother relocated nearby and established a residence in the style to which she and her son were accustomed, and where he was apparently allowed to visit regularly, so his life at West Point wasn't the Spartan experience it was for say, the North Dakota farm boy far from home in the solid grasp of military discipline for most of the four years.

 

[STP]

Donating objects for others to enjoy is pretty cool. Adding a story... even better.

 

[anotherbob]

I am attaching some pictures so you will know this wasn't some 'Side Show Bob's Emporium'. A lot of Marines died so you can be a cold cynic questioning every thing and everyone you want to in the freedom of your comfortable chair. Perhaps you had to be there where a stone from the flag raising on Iwo Jima was brought back and donated by a Marine. Is that fake too? Or one of the pens used in the surrender of Japan by MacArthur -- is everything faked? Well, the honor of the men who served isn't fake in my book. View attachment 65724View attachment 65725View attachment 65726

hey I don't care. I am fine with the fact that if someone is bigger then life things get exaggerated sometimes. I am not going to throw a "truth" campaign. It just rubs me as not 100 percent factual. And just to also be totally clear I am not saying anyone is lying. Just that happens when people are like Macarthur details can take on extra dimensions. Or in other words I am not trying to disrespect anyone or more importantly accuse anyone of any type of malfeasance. If you that doesn't wash with you I'll happily delete my first post and this one too.

 

[Grangerous]

Completely believable. Is the alternative more believable!

This senior gentleman awoke one morning, his mind set on deception, obtains an old cob of the era and then hatches his diabolical plan to donate it for “free” along with a work of his imagination!

 

[anotherbob]

Completely believable. Is the alternative more believable!

This senior gentleman awoke one morning, his mind set on deception, obtains an old cob of the era and then hatches his diabolical plan to donate it for “free” along with a work of his imagination!

or what I think which is the middle ground. Generally true but stretched a bit by time and people just being people and things getting a little more this or that. Maybe it's just a side effect of working occasionally at a little military museum (part of the ROTC building I clean sometimes and their displays having tons of very solid verification and certification). I don't doubt the general them. It's more like I just feel not 100 percent on this. Just a gut thing.