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guitrsnglocks

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Apr 1, 2015
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I'm taking the smoke in through my nose but not deeply inhaling it with my chest/lungs. I should've clarified that in the first post

 

phil67

Lifer
Dec 14, 2013
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I'm taking the smoke in through my nose but not deeply inhaling it with my chest/lungs. I should've clarified that in the first post
The mere act of breathing, and or sniffing through the nose is inhaling and there is no way of getting around that fact no matter how much you twist and turn it. Mind you, I'm not in any way judging the act of doing so, but merely stating fact. Hey... this is coming from someone who is a 50+ year cigarette smoker and we have to try and stop this foolish notion that smoke is not entering our lungs to some degree with a pipe. But, French inhaling, just as it's name implies, is... inhaling. Bottom line, and when all is said and done, smoke how you wish and gives you satisfaction. :wink:

 
Mar 1, 2014
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Guitrsnglocks, some people have a pretty hard line against smoke inhalation.

I'm not going to accuse people of being the spawn of evil for inhaling, it certainly is a personal choice, but I would question what the long term effects are.
Even keeping smoke exclusively in my mouth I still can't have more than a few bowls a week without facing negative consequences. Maybe I would "toughen up" if I kept at it, maybe I'm hypersensitive, or maybe other people just don't care. Regardless, I like to say that I can use a pipe with zero impact on my health.

Just be aware of what your body is telling you and try to understand the consequences of your actions.

 

guitrsnglocks

Might Stick Around
Apr 1, 2015
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I'm not so naive as to think I'm not inhaling "any" smoke when I do this. But I will say it's nowhere near as intense as when I've accidentally inhaled through the mouth. As I said I cough and gag when I do that but when pulling in through the nose I get no agitation whatsoever. Anyway I didn't mean to start a debate on inhalation in pipe smoking. I simply wanted to state that I was having trouble picking up flavors and nuances until my grandfather reccomended this, who by the way is almost 80 and healthy as a bear(non cig smoker as well). Like I said didn't mean to stir up a pipe smoking health debate here as everyone is different. Thanks for the responses fellas.

 

phil67

Lifer
Dec 14, 2013
2,052
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Like I said didn't mean to stir up a pipe smoking health debate here as everyone is different. Thanks for the responses fellas.
Hey... no debate at all, much less a stir. All in all, interesting input and informative thoughts on the matter. :wink:

 

ericthered

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 29, 2014
511
4
Suffolk, VA
This is a good thread! I've learned a new-to-me smoking term that I otherwise wouldn't have encountered. I think the google search (I had to google it to learn what it was) is a little misleading compared to the practical application within the pipe smoking community. Google is full of images of an entire mouthful of smoke/vapor being channeled up into the nostrils, something that I don't think is realistic with pipe smoke. I smoke outside, but if the wind shifts and blows my last mouthful of smoke in my face while I'm inhaling, it's all I can do to keep from blowing out the contents of my pipe with a coughing fit. I think the French inhale as applied to pipes is more about smelling/breathing in a few wisps of smoke rather than what google images shows us. And I agree, breathing in a little smoke through the nose allows me to experience more flavor of the smoke, what I consider the "room note" of whatever I'm smoking.

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
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The French Inhale and the retrohale: :wink:the only way to discover the nuances of your pipe tobacco!

 

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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25
OK,I understand "french inhale", but where in the hell did the term "retrohale" come from. Sounds almost as silly as "lunting" to me. 8O

 

ericthered

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 29, 2014
511
4
Suffolk, VA
Ejames, retrohale may not be the coolest word around, but it's far better in my opinion than the synonym others use- snork.

 

okiescout

Lifer
Jan 27, 2013
1,530
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Thanks for this article, yaddy306
Retrohaling* is the process of EXPELLING smoke so that it passes through the nasal cavity and past the olfactory receptors on its way out of your body. To call it “exhaling” or “blowing” smoke out through the nose is misleading because cigarette smokers also exhale smoke through the nose. The confusion arises because exhaling is the opposite of inhaling. And yet, most cigar smokers do not (and should not) inhale cigar smoke. Retrohaling bypasses the lungs completely.
I believe this is the process I was attempting to describe, up thread.

 

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Ejames, retrohale may not be the coolest word around, but it's far better in my opinion than the synonym others use- snork.
I agree! Snork doesn't sound any better to me!! Coolness has nothing to do with it,it just doesn't sound right as I understand the meaning of the term "retro".
And I blow smoke outa my nose all the time,although I have been told a time or two to blow it out of my ............

 

yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
1,372
505
Regina, Canada
Coolness has nothing to do with it,it just doesn't sound right as I understand the meaning of the term "retro".

The guy that coined the term says it is a contraction of two terms: retronasal olfaction and exhale.

"Retro" means "back".

 

12pups

Lifer
Feb 9, 2014
1,063
2
Minnesota
Well I'll be. They have words for it and studies.
(Who says there's a job shortage?)
:)
I had this crazy notion to suck on a flower, just to see if I can smell it better. (Now I have to try it. This last link, what it describes... should get a different olfactory experience from it.)
Be quiet--you're tempted to experiment, too, I just know you are.
As for the pipe? Naw. I tried and tried back when I first read about it. I couldn't get it to work for me. And no matter what I did, I couldn't keep from inhaling. *Though* I got it, but then it was a lot of concentration. So maybe only *some* people are this coordinated, or their senses are wired for this kind of tasting, or the rest of us it doesn't come natural to and we have to skip it or invest in a lot of practice?
Cool as online pipe socialization is most of the time, I think for this we should have classes and seminars. Could title them, "Pups: You're doing it wrong."

 

wcannoy

Can't Leave
Nov 29, 2012
344
5
Lakeland, FL
Wafting the smoke from the mouth to the nose provides a much better sense of taste for me. It's pretty much all I do. Not a "French inhale" in the normal sense of the term but rather just sipping the pipe and then smelling the tobacco as the smoke slowly wafts out of the mouth
Yep. This is how I smoke.
I'd guesstimate that less than five percent of the smoke expelled from the mouth gets inhaled through the nose.

 

easterntraveler

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 29, 2012
805
11
So here is the deal. I don't care how you smoke "your" pipe as long as you enjoy it. I have seen several people make a post on how one should not use this technique or criticize it, but those same people will go on and on how people should not be able to tell them wether or not they should or should not be able to smoke. It is your life brother enjoy it how you want. If you would prefer not to inhale the smoke and get the same effect from French inhaling, then my friend retro haling is for you. It is just the opposite. Draw the smoke into your mouth and push it to the back of your throat and up while exhaling out of the nose. However if inhaling is your thing go for it. Not my cup of tea but I have a friend that inhales. Just what he does.

 
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