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pentangle

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 21, 2011
548
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Genova-Italy
I don't think that a machined pipe could be defined free hand, maybe free shape if the shape is not ordinary.Otherwise how we could define a fully hand made pipe? That's my opinion of course and don't think that expose a diffeent opinion could be offensive or annoying .If so sorry i'm in a wrong place

Maurizio

 

pipeinhand

Lifer
Sep 23, 2011
1,198
0
Virginia
To me, and I have been doing this for 40 years, freehand is a shape, not a construction method. A "handmade" pipe should bring a higher price but with that said, the market will bear what it will. Pipes are art, that you use. You can purchase a very good looking freehand pipe, at a price that won't cost you a car payment, and be happy. I knew what you meant nsfisher in your first post.
@hnryclay: you can't go wrong with a Nording, I have 3 with 2 more coming.
Bootleg, dude, that Celius is awesome! I covet that pipe. :puffy:
EDIT: @profpar: nice link, I am going to get the checkbook.

 

maxpeters

Can't Leave
Jan 4, 2010
439
23
I don't care for the look of most freehand pipes. But that's just me. I remember back in the 70's when it seemed like everybody was trying to out do one another with weird shapes. A lot of them looked ridiculous, just to be different I think.

I'm sure a lot of the time it was just so the carver could use a flawed block of brair, and come away with a "masterpiece freehand".

No. I was glad to see some normality return to the pipe making community.

 

markw4mms

Lifer
Jun 16, 2011
2,176
2
Bremen,GA
I guess freehand is an old term that is still just being used out of habit. When I started working in the business back in the late '70's, freehand was the terminology used for any pipe that didn't adhere to a standard shape, and I guess it still is for the most part(at least here in the US) as can be seen on the major e-tailers sites for pipes by Nording for instance. I know for a fact that these pipes that run $75-$100 aren't completely hand made, but the term freehand is still used. I thing freestyle, or freeshape might be a more accurate description of the pipe, but it seems old habits, or in this case nomenclature dies hard. Just my $.02.

 

pentangle

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 21, 2011
548
1
Genova-Italy
Well i understand that probably there's a difference between Europe and Usa.The confusion is probably due to that.The best example is the James Upshall production for the most part rigorously of English style but the printing over the shank says " FH James Upshall + shape number" .The Uphall pipes could be made entirely by hand (?) the FH (free hand) means hand without help of any machine..........so Free ,also in the english standard shapes.

So we could say it's only a definition not important at all.When i buy a pipe for 30 $ new i can define it free shape because i'm sure no hand worked as free on that pipe.But if in Usa you prefer to call that pipe freehand , well nothing change at all.Surely a 30$ pipe it is worth what it costs freehand or freeshape

Maurizio

 

group4

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 16, 2011
195
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mlaug was right: the Ben Wade in the ebay auction was in fair condition at best; so his apparaisal was closer to the mark than mine (the pipe sold at 60-something dollars).

 

longshot

Might Stick Around
May 16, 2011
58
0
I have a Preben Holm and a Ben Wade both are excellent smokers. Both I got for under $100.00 on ebay.

 

rigmedic1

Lifer
May 29, 2011
3,896
76
I bought my freehands in the 80's: a Nording,

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a Ben Wade,

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a Jobey

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and an Edwards.

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All are excellent smoking pipes, but big and heavy. None were more than $45.00 back then. I also have an oddball, a Rungstead Seafarer, again its a nice pipe, but really big. Of all these, I like the Nording best.

 

aussielass

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 18, 2011
513
1
OK what I have learned from this is that "freehand" refers only to a non-conventional shape, therefore no 2 will ever be identical be the characteristics of the original lump of briar are retained.
I think the term for a completely hand-made, no machinery used pipe should be Hand-Made or Hand-carved, period!
The current status quo is misleading for new players.

 

frennchy11

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 28, 2011
508
0
Unfortunately no. I wasnt able to place a bid. it only went for around 60$ though!

 

mlaug

Part of the Furniture Now
May 23, 2010
908
3
Iowa
Well, it won't be the last one for sale. Good luck with the hunt! I hope you get a nice one.

 

unclearthur

Lifer
Mar 9, 2010
6,875
6
A lot of those turn up on ebay. I rather like the look of freehand pipes but I dislike the large bowls due to the problem of having screwed up hands and holding them can be less than comfortable for me. One other thing is in the 70's the stump on a stick style was popular. They just lacked class in my opinion. Sort of soured me on freehands.

 
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