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shermnatman

Lifer
Jan 25, 2019
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4,869
Philadelphia Suburbs, Pennsylvania
Just remember that you heard this first from the Nostradamus of pipe smokers. When the FDA makes it illegal to have flavored tobacco all the people who found blends they loved after 2007 will be gone.
I agree with this completely.

I also feel that the impact - like all the other attempts by do-good groups of irrational mothers to protect imaged victims from whatever they elect as their current Boogeyman-of the-week - will be coming to us sooner than later.

I feel this way mostly because there seems - to me, anyway - to be too much change and obscure motion occurring at the consumer-level with regard to tobacco products.

I, for one, usually do not welcome change when I am set with a thing; especially when it comes uninvited, and when initiated by an outside group of uninformed, self-elected, hyper-reactionaries to some other situation: e.g.: Their little angle, Johnny, caught at school vaping cotton-candy flavored PG juice.

So the questions in my mind are:

1) Will the postulated ban on flavored pipe tobacco be limited solely to those pipe tobacco formulations which use a PG-based flavoring/casing/topping; or, will this ban on flavored pipe tobacco extend itself to include long-time FDA Approved alcohol-based food-grade flavor extracts applied to otherwise PG-Free tobaccos as well?

and,

2) Would a distinction be made between those pipe tobaccos which use non-flavored PG for it's humidiccant providing properties, or not?

Unfortunately, the typical angry mob of overly emotional and uneducated helicopter parents, armed with pitch-forks and torches, pressuring locale, state, and federal representatives, generally makes for lousy scientific-based decisions; with unintended real victims - being your favorite pipe tobacco blend - and driving it all, en mass, from from the landscape of store shelves... so now, their little johnny will be protected.

CigrMaster, what does your sooth-saying crystal ball foretell about my questions of you... oh great prognosticator of these turbulent tobacco times we live in? - Sherm Natman
 
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canucklehead

Lifer
Aug 1, 2018
2,862
15,355
Alberta
I agree with this completely.

I also feel that the impact - like all the other attempts by do-good groups of irrational mothers to protect imaged victims from whatever they elect as their current Boogeyman-of the-week - will be coming to us sooner than later.

I feel this way mostly because there seems - to me, anyway - to be too much change and obscure motion occurring at the consumer-level with regard to tobacco products.

I, for one, usually do not welcome change when I am set with a thing; especially when it comes uninvited, and when initiated by an outside group of uninformed, self-elected, hyper-reactionaries to some other situation: e.g.: Their little angle, Johnny, caught at school vaping cotton-candy flavored PG juice.

So the questions in my mind are:

1) Will the postulated ban on flavored pipe tobacco be limited solely to those pipe tobacco formulations which use a PG-based flavoring/casing/topping; or, will this ban on flavored pipe tobacco extend itself to include long-time FDA Approved alcohol-based food-grade flavor extracts applied to otherwise PG-Free tobaccos as well?

and,

2) Would a distinction be made between those pipe tobaccos which use non-flavored PG for it's humidiccant providing properties, or not?

Unfortunately, the typical angry mob of overly emotional and uneducated helicopter parents, armed with pitch-forks and torches, pressuring locale, state, and federal representatives, generally makes for lousy scientific-based decisions; with unintended real victims - being your favorite pipe tobacco blend - and driving it all, en mass, from from the landscape of store shelves... so now, their little johnny will be protected.

CigrMaster, what does your sooth-saying crystal ball foretell about my questions of you... oh great prognosticator of these turbulent tobacco times we live in? - Sherm Natman
It has absolutely nothing to do with the flavouring agents or ingredients themselves, it's the fact that they are flavoured that is looked at as the problem, as flavours, specifically of fruits or desserts, will obviously attract children.

They banned flavoured gas station "cigars" here a while back, because they said that the bright coloured packaging and child friendly flavours like cherry and peach cause children to smoke cigarettes, because if you try any tobacco product (vapes included) you will instantly be addicted to cigarettes, and smoking even one cigarette will kill you and everyone around you.
 

shermnatman

Lifer
Jan 25, 2019
1,030
4,869
Philadelphia Suburbs, Pennsylvania
... it's the fact that they are flavoured that is looked at as the problem, as flavours, specifically of fruits or desserts, will obviously attract children.
If that is the "logic" which is driving their train-of-thought-madness, would not the same "logic" these pressure-groups are using, also then "logically" extend to all my fruit-flavor infused booze; like vodkas?

By their "logic" which you describe, why aren't these same pressure-groups attacking the booze industry?

After all, by their thinking which you kindly alerted me to, by putting fruit or dessert flavorings into bottles of booze, if their Little Johnny - now in his Freshman year of High School - should try any fruit-flavored booze product (wine coolers included) he will equally and instantly be addicted to alcohol, and drinking even one shot will kill him try and everyone around him.

That little Johnny kid is a real pain in the butt; and so is his mom.

Thanks for explaining it to me Canucklehead; I knew it was bad, I just didn't know it was that bad. - Sherm Natman
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
11,765
40,041
IA
If that is the "logic" which is driving their train-of-thought-madness, would not the same "logic" these pressure-groups are using, also then "logically" extend to all my fruit-flavor infused booze; like vodkas?

By their "logic" which you describe, why aren't these same pressure-groups attacking the booze industry?

After all, by their thinking which you kindly alerted me to, by putting fruit or dessert flavorings into bottles of booze, if their Little Johnny - now in his Freshman year of High School - should try any fruit-flavored booze product (wine coolers included) he will equally and instantly be addicted to alcohol, and drinking even one shot will kill him try and everyone around him.

That little Johnny kid is a real pain in the butt; and so is his mom.

Thanks for explaining it to me Canucklehead; I knew it was bad, I just didn't know it was that bad. - Sherm Natman
That’s because they make so much money off the booze.
 

Cotton1

Can't Leave
Nov 3, 2020
445
1,936
South Carolina
I don’t enjoy it as a solo tobacco, too goopy. However, mixed in little amounts with stronger tobaccos it’s fun to experiment. The room note is great and you get some interesting results based on what your mixing it with.
I enjoy doing this sort of blend mixing\experimenting.
Any suggestions for the Molto Dolce?
I find BCA mixes well with lots of things for me fwiw.
 
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