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tolstoyevsky

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Might be suffering from a common rapid aversion to Latakia. One day you like it and overnight it's no longer appealing.
Oh Dude! I figure everybody in the world got The Bug which goofed up everybody's taste buds. And I'm to the point where what tastes great one day bits the wax tadpole the next day. Patience, diligence and variety are my only hope.
 

OzPiper

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Wow, that invites a few different points. 1) I seem to have my best results with brandy (I spend too much on tobacco to be able to afford cognac, lol.) Sake seems an interesting experiment. 2) I thought of Islay malts. Sweet but can be very smoky
it might be worth noting "In Aztec culture, cacao beans were considered more valuable than gold," and that they mixed it with peppers. Would chocolate enhance the tobacco experience
I love cognac/armagnac and rum with cigars and pipes
Not so much a fan of single malts - but I won’t knock one back

I have sake with Japanese food and have never paired it with a smoke.

As for chocolate - I’m somewhat of a chocoholic, but the one time I tried an overtly chocolate blend, I really hated it.
So chocolate on its own, but never with a pipe.
 

MisterBadger

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Wow, that invites a few different points. <SNIP> Sake seems an interesting experiment.
Sake, to my mind, apart from complementing a Japanese meal, is a wonderful recreation in itself, like pipe smoking. So many variables, even with just one bottle - temperature, what you drink it out of, etc. Each sip from a single eggcup-sized chokko can differ subtly from the next, as the cup and the sake warm in your hands. If I smoked a pipe whilst drinking sake, I think I'd get a sensory overload: far too much going on.
 

MisterBadger

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<SNIP> If tobacco became a thing via the Americas, it might be worth noting "In Aztec culture, cacao beans were considered more valuable than gold," and that they mixed it with peppers. Would chocolate enhance the tobacco experience?
In my experience, raw cacao certainly does. Chocolate as it is purveyed to us, rather less so.
 
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Zeno Marx

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The Thais LOVE whisky
To generalise - I have noticed a national/racial preference (??historical) for certain spirits

Growing up in Malaysia, cognac was the drink of choice until in recent years when single malts seem to have become the flavour of the day amongst my Malaysian friends.
The Chinese have a preference for grape and rice spirits. Until a couple of decades ago, Hong Kong was the biggest market (per capita) for cognac.
Japanese (apart from sake) and Indians have a preference for whisky

I personally feel that beer goes best with spicy food/curry
I would assume it is somewhat learned behavior/response/developed taste. I really don't know how our flavor palate works and changes over time. I hated all vegetables other than potatoes when I was a kid, and now I can eat just about any of them with genuine enthusiasm. Never liked fish of any sort. The second biggest cafeteria day in my schools (all of them) was fish sticks (the first being pizza). The smell of even them makes me a little nauseous. With my present palate, I'd likely die in and island culture, as they all love fish. And I would LOVE to be able to even stand fish, because it would be great to have that option when backpacking rather than lugging around my own proteins. I simply cannot do it.

I love spicy. I just don't like to smoke after it.
 

FLDRD

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...as I go farther down the rabbit hole, lol. What makes the body "happy?" Ethanol can do it by inducing euphoria, but those pathways can be inhibited. Capsaicin can do it, but by the same pathways? So, by what mechanism(s) is pleasure induced by a good smoke?
Mechanism of action via the endocannabinoid system.
 
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tolstoyevsky

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No, I'm dead serious. The combo is great.

You can order a pickleback at a lot of bars. They'll bring you a shot of whiskey and a shot of pickle juice.
Fair is fair. Just discovered there is in fact such a thing, but I reserve the right to be gabberflasted. Oddly, my tobacconist, grocery and liquor store are in the same shopping center.