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Dankpipez

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Jan 11, 2022
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Edited title. See Rule 9. -jpm

Hey all,

Relatively new pipe smoker and completely new forum poster. I wanted to share some interesting research that is relatively recent (2018) in regard to activated charcoal filtration of gas phase and particulate phase radicals. First, a bit of background -

I am a lifetime athlete, competing at a high level from grade school up through university and I have continue my active lifestyle into adulthood. I am also a lifetime sufferer of asthma which is both exercise and environmentally induced. In addition to the above, I am cursed with a penchant for cigars and more recently, pipes. I also come from a family filled with scientists, educators, orators, and professional debaters.

We all know that there is an inherent risk to our health that we take when enjoying tobacco products in whichever form they may be. Generally, more exposure (amount and frequency over time) results in a higher risk, and in most cases the level of harm is greatest with cigarette usage and lower (although not absent) for pipe/cigar smokers.

In an effort to minimize risk and retain my health as well as athletic performance, I have taken a number of steps. I smoke one bowl a week. I smoke for no longer than 40-50 minutes. I keep a cool drink with me that I sip on regularly while enjoying my pipe. I only smoke outdoors and make sure there is a cross breeze that pushes the smoke from my bowl away from my face. I wash my hands and face immediately after my pipe and also rinse/brush my teeth/mouth. And, finally, getting to the point of this first post of mine, I use a filter.

I was, however, skeptical in regard to their efficacy. Before making the decision to purchase filtered pipes, I poked around for some research. I was unable to find any reputable shred of evidence, despite what savinelli says on their website, that supports balsa as an effective form of filtration for reducing harmful particulates. I did, however, find a paper that looks into the efficacy of activated charcoal in the filtration of tobacco smoke.

The filtration used is slightly different, and they were focusing on filtering cigarette smoke, but the approach is controlled and scientific with some interesting results.

I will post the abstract below, but I highly recommend reading the paper to understand the finer details. The 6mm and 9mm charcoal filters that are sold for pipes differ in construction from what they were using in their lab testing. It is also difficult to find any figures on how much activated charcoal is actually included in activated charcoal pipe filters. However, there is a strong possibility that there is some beneficial filtration that occurs based on the findings. (important sections in the abstract in bold)

Abstract -

The addition of charcoal in cigarette filters may be an effective means of reducing many toxicants from tobacco smoke. Free radicals are a highly reactive class of oxidants abundant in cigarette smoke, and here we evaluated the effectiveness of charcoal to reduce free radical delivery by comparing radical yields from commercially available cigarettes with charcoal-infused filters to those without and by examining the effects of incorporating charcoal into conventional cigarette filters on radical production. Commercial cigarettes containing charcoal filters produced 40% fewer gas-phase radicals than did regular cellulose acetate filter cigarettes when smoked using the International Organization of Standardization (ISO, p = 0.07) and Canadian Intense (CI, p < 0.01) smoking protocols. While mean-particulate-phase radicals were 25–27% lower in charcoal cigarettes, differences from noncharcoal products were not significant (p = 0.06–0.22). When cellulose acetate cigarette filters were modified to incorporate different types and amounts of activated charcoal, reductions in gas-phase (>70%), but not particulate-phase, radicals were observed. The reductions in gas-phase radicals were similar for the three types of charcoal. Decreases in radical production were dose-responsive with increasing amounts of charcoal (25–300 mg) with as little as 25 mg of activated charcoal reducing gas-phase radicals by 41%. In all studies, charcoal had less of an effect on nicotine delivery, which was decreased 33% at the maximal amount of charcoal tested (300 mg). Overall, these results support the potential consideration of charcoal in cigarette filters as a means to reduce exposure to toxic free radicals from cigarettes and other combustible tobacco products.

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Anyway, just something I found interesting! Again, please read the paper as it is important in understanding their methods (types of filters used, types of charcoal, doses, smoking technique used, etc)

-Dankpipez
 
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goldenmole

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Welcome to the forum! It sounds like you are trying to smoke pipe without actually smoking pipe :)
With one quick bowl outside per week (in cross-breeze no less) I would not worry much about health impacts. I would worry more about what is it that you are getting in terms of pleasure out of pipe smoking.

Otherwise I can relate of cause.. I also only smoke outside and very limited number of bowls per week (currently 3-5). Can't comment on the charcoal filter effects in the scientific sense, but I am one of the few fans of those types of filters here on the forum for a smoother, drier and less tongue-bite prone smoke. Again: most on here are against filters due to reasons of effort, cost, restrictions in draw and loosing flavors..
 

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Lifer
Oct 22, 2021
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Hey all,

Relatively new pipe smoker and completely new forum poster. I wanted to share some interesting research that is relatively recent (2018) in regard to activated charcoal filtration of gas phase and particulate phase radicals. First, a bit of background -


I am a lifetime athlete, competing at a high level from grade school up through university and I have continue my active lifestyle into adulthood. I am also a lifetime sufferer of asthma which is both exercise and environmentally induced. In addition to the above, I am cursed with a penchant for cigars and more recently, pipes. I also come from a family filled with scientists, educators, orators, and professional debaters.

We all know that there is an inherent risk to our health that we take when enjoying tobacco products in whichever form they may be. Generally, more exposure (amount and frequency over time) results in a higher risk, and in most cases the level of harm is greatest with cigarette usage and lower (although not absent) for pipe/cigar smokers.

In an effort to minimize risk and retain my health as well as athletic performance, I have taken a number of steps. I smoke one bowl a week. I smoke for no longer than 40-50 minutes. I keep a cool drink with me that I sip on regularly while enjoying my pipe. I only smoke outdoors and make sure there is a cross breeze that pushes the smoke from my bowl away from my face. I wash my hands and face immediately after my pipe and also rinse/brush my teeth/mouth. And, finally, getting to the point of this first post of mine, I use a filter.

I was, however, skeptical in regard to their efficacy. Before making the decision to purchase filtered pipes, I poked around for some research. I was unable to find any reputable shred of evidence, despite what savinelli says on their website, that supports balsa as an effective form of filtration for reducing harmful particulates. I did, however, find a paper that looks into the efficacy of activated charcoal in the filtration of tobacco smoke.

The filtration used is slightly different, and they were focusing on filtering cigarette smoke, but the approach is controlled and scientific with some interesting results.

I will post the abstract below, but I highly recommend reading the paper to understand the finer details. The 6mm and 9mm charcoal filters that are sold for pipes differ in construction from what they were using in their lab testing. It is also difficult to find any figures on how much activated charcoal is actually included in activated charcoal pipe filters. However, there is a strong possibility that there is some beneficial filtration that occurs based on the findings. (important sections in the abstract in bold)

Abstract -

The addition of charcoal in cigarette filters may be an effective means of reducing many toxicants from tobacco smoke. Free radicals are a highly reactive class of oxidants abundant in cigarette smoke, and here we evaluated the effectiveness of charcoal to reduce free radical delivery by comparing radical yields from commercially available cigarettes with charcoal-infused filters to those without and by examining the effects of incorporating charcoal into conventional cigarette filters on radical production. Commercial cigarettes containing charcoal filters produced 40% fewer gas-phase radicals than did regular cellulose acetate filter cigarettes when smoked using the International Organization of Standardization (ISO, p = 0.07) and Canadian Intense (CI, p < 0.01) smoking protocols. While mean-particulate-phase radicals were 25–27% lower in charcoal cigarettes, differences from noncharcoal products were not significant (p = 0.06–0.22). When cellulose acetate cigarette filters were modified to incorporate different types and amounts of activated charcoal, reductions in gas-phase (>70%), but not particulate-phase, radicals were observed. The reductions in gas-phase radicals were similar for the three types of charcoal. Decreases in radical production were dose-responsive with increasing amounts of charcoal (25–300 mg) with as little as 25 mg of activated charcoal reducing gas-phase radicals by 41%. In all studies, charcoal had less of an effect on nicotine delivery, which was decreased 33% at the maximal amount of charcoal tested (300 mg). Overall, these results support the potential consideration of charcoal in cigarette filters as a means to reduce exposure to toxic free radicals from cigarettes and other combustible tobacco products.

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Anyway, just something I found interesting! Again, please read the paper as it is important in understanding their methods (types of filters used, types of charcoal, doses, smoking technique used, etc)

-Dankpipez

Welcome to the forum. First off, it would be nice if you would NOT use a pale blue type for your posts. Some of us (i.e. Me) have sub-standard color vision and find in very hard to read. Black, however, seems to work just fine.... puffy
 

Dankpipez

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Jan 11, 2022
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Welcome to the forum! It sounds like you are trying to smoke pipe without actually smoking pipe:)
With one quick bowl outside per week (in cross-breeze no less) I would not worry much about health impacts. I would worry more about what is it that you are getting in terms of pleasure out of pipe smoking.

Otherwise I can relate of cause.. I also only smoke outside and very limited number of bowls per week (currently 3-5). Can't comment on the charcoal filter effects in the scientific sense, but I am one of the few fans of those types of filters here on the forum for a smoother, drier and less tongue-bite prone smoke. Again: most on here are against filters due to reasons of effort, cost, restrictions in draw and loosing flavors..
Thanks for the warm welcome!

I would worry more about what is it that you are getting in terms of pleasure out of pipe smoking:)

Great question! I would say that different folks get different things from smoking. For me, I enjoy cigars, and more recently pipes, for the unique flavors you can get through the blending/aging process. Discovering new flavors is a lot of fun for me. I just recently had my first bowl of Seattle Pipe Club's Plum Pudding. Wow! I love a smoky, salty, sweet cigar, (kinda like BBQ sauce), and plum pudding scratched that itch for me!
 

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Lifer
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I've tried the filters in some of the pipes I have that accept them. They definitely absorb quite a lot. Not a fan however. I like to run a pipe cleaner through right after a smoke and not let the filter sit in there any longer than necessary. If you are just looking to get a lot of flavor from smoking something you could always try vaping. It has much less of the toxic stuff than tobacco. I also only smoke my pipe outside, but that because the wife will not allow it inside, otherwise I'd probably smoke a lot more than I do right now.
 

Dankpipez

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Jan 11, 2022
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Oof...forgot to post the link to the original research paper -

 

mso489

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I smoke about one pipe bowl a day (in pipes of various sizes), sometimes none, sometimes two or three. I don't get much flavor with filters, though I have both 6 mm paper and 9 mm charcoal on hand. I think if I regularly used them, I'd have two or three bowls a day, for the flavor, and perhaps for the nicotine although I don't seem to key on nicotine much. Or I wouldn't smoke at all, if filters were a given. With asthma, perhaps I would. I try to keep the pipe as simple as possible, with as few additional items to buy and manipulate.
 
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monty55

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Welcome to the forum!

Boy, one bowl a week huh? I don't think I could do that. I can barely make it through an hour without wanting another bowl.

I'm very interested to know how you apply an activated charcoal filter to your cigars. Do you use a tip fitted with a chamber for the charcoal?
 
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Seeing that you are are an athlete and a pipe smoker, you may or may not be aware, that in 1954 when Roger Bannister broke the 4-minute mile, it was well known that he was a 40 a day cigarette smoker, his main pacemaker Chris Chattaway was also a smoker.

Now, all that has been airbrushed out of history, I can't find a single mention of Roger Bannister being a smoker on the internet !
 

mso489

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Asthma is a unique condition. It isn't physiologically an allergy, and it isn't precisely the same as other chemical sensitivities, but it is treatable on its own terms. My grandma, who I sometimes stayed a week with, had asthma and occasionally had the doc come over and give her a shot to subdue it.
 

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Flogging that dead horse​


A venerable and yes, even honorable, pastime here. Although, there are some capital letters missing in the title. Oh, well, they may not really be "rules", only loose guidelines. But, reading the rules is not necessary for many as they realize rules are not usually applicable to them.

Smoking is risky. It's for people not averse to risk. With soooooo many strictures how can you possibly enjoy our we vice? Perhaps a model railroad or gardening might be a better choice. Well, maybe not gardening with all the poisons involved. Or, railroading for that matter. Electricity is involved after all. But, I jest! Or ... do I?
 
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Seeing that you are are an athlete and a pipe smoker, you may or may not be aware, that in 1954 when Roger Bannister broke the 4-minute mile, it was well known that he was a 40 a day cigarette smoker, his main pacemaker Chris Chattaway was also a smoker.

Now, all that has been airbrushed out of history, I can't find a single mention of Roger Bannister being a smoker on the internet !
Being British I know about Roger Bannister breaking the 4 minute mile but I didn't know he was a smoker. Doesn't surprise me that much as lots of footballers used to smoke back then.