Just wanted to share that I have finally tried to just fold and stuff a slice of flake. I have four or five different flakes but just didnt have the courage to try for fear I would waste the bowl. So I am at this moment finishing a bowl Orlik Golden Slice. I wasn't a fan of the VA's until I tried this stuff rubbed out and now using this loading method I am hooked! I don't know if it is just me but it seamed to burn cooler and much longer just folded and stuffed. You learn somethin' every day :D