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I don't do social media other than a few BBs, so I wouldn't have seen what you are referring to. My point is that the same tired old complaint of "over-hyped" is brought up any time there is a limited/special release which causes it to go fast. The "super hype" is not from the manufacturer. Obviously product announcements and advertising is part and parcel to anything sold. The manufacturer has no control of "Hype" from social media and word of mouth. The fact that it's there is good business, is it not? Again, limited/special release is what it is and we are all familiar with it. Why do so many people feel the need to beat the dead horse about it time and time again (rhetorical)? I understand the complaints about the website, however that too should be expected.
I mean, the social media people didn’t exact magically receive their tins. They literally sent the tins ahead of release to the social media folks. it started hitting my feed almost 2 weeks ago.

Who do you think is spamming the site to buy it all up? It’s not the people walking into B&Ms.

I didn’t even want the blend and I knew everything there was about it quite a bit ago.
 

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Except the screen you get after your wait is the Captcha check, and then you get a screen saying that you’re blocked and have to call some random phone number.

I tried for an hour to get my cart to checkout. Then it was sold out.
 
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I mean, the social media people didn’t exact magically receive their tins. They literally sent the tins ahead of release to the social media folks. it started hitting my feed almost 2 weeks ago.

Who do you think is spamming the site to buy it all up? It’s not the people walking into B&Ms.

I didn’t even want the blend and I knew everything there was about it quite a bit ago.
Can you provide an example of where C&D hyped up this release? I genuinely curious.
 
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Chasing Embers

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I mean, the social media people didn’t exact magically receive their tins. They literally sent the tins ahead of release to the social media folks. it started hitting my feed almost 2 weeks ago.

Who do you think is spamming the site to buy it all up? It’s not the people walking into B&Ms.

I didn’t even want the blend and I knew everything there was about it quite a bit ago.
It's been a known thing since January 4th. Not like it was a surprise to anyone and it was available at multiple outlets.

If B&Ms got any it's just due to being C&D distributors. They don't buy from the site and would've made it available on the release date.
 

telescopes

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Look, it doesn't take too many calls or computers to jam up a site if it is done all at once. Must have products like Firebird are only must have tobaccos for a reason I certainly don't understand. Having just experienced White Knight, a tobacco that is on its way out, I would prefer to have access to something like that than a one of fly by night tobacco such as Firebird. The hype isn't from C&D. The hype is from those on the forums who get all excited by the sound of slot machines in a casino. Tantrums and barking at the wind will get you very little. Boutique merchandise isn't really boutique. It's a gimmick. Maybe it smokes great. Maybe it won't. Maybe you would never have cared if it was readily available as was the case with the prior Cringle Flake, 2023. People bitched that they wouldn't have purchased it had they known it wouldn't have sold out. Well, it that was the case, then why did you buy it to begin with. FOMO. People were upset with C&D over that one because they thought somehow the company was fraudulent in calling it a small release. That goes to show you. Just like this last release does. It's all about the hype and the hype lives in the mind.
 

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Cringle Flake was a Sutliff product, not a C&D release but I take your point.

Personally, I don’t jump on every small batch release but this one sounded promising to me because I like some of the components in it.

Also, some of Small Batch releases are great blends. I buy every tin of Eight States Burley that I can get my hands on. And there are tons of people that absolutely love the mostly-annual small batch release of Sun Bear. Just as a couple examples.

I don’t think everyone needs a blend to be readily available as a prerequisite for wanting to own a few tins.
 

LotusEater

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All of yall's cries of anguish, is just going to make me enjoy smoking mine all the better. The tears of the unfortunate, flavors the meals of the fortunate.
If everyone could have gotten some, I probably wouldn't like it as much. puffy

I'm kidding, just kidding. :::sigh::: but don't stop complaining... keep on. I am... empathizing with you poor saps souls. Bless yall's hearts.
This is so wrong yet I love it. I’m looking forward to cracking one of my tins and contemplating the tears of the less fortunate.

Strangely this is one of a very few small batch or limited release blends I have gone after. I’ve usually been able to pick up a tin or two of other limited releases at a local B&M or I just haven’t been that interested but I am really glad I made the effort this time and secured a few tins right away. The components in this one and the write ups perked my curiosity and hightened expectations.
 

LotusEater

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Look, it doesn't take too many calls or computers to jam up a site if it is done all at once. Must have products like Firebird are only must have tobaccos for a reason I certainly don't understand. Having just experienced White Knight, a tobacco that is on its way out, I would prefer to have access to something like that than a one of fly by night tobacco such as Firebird. The hype isn't from C&D. The hype is from those on the forums who get all excited by the sound of slot machines in a casino. Tantrums and barking at the wind will get you very little. Boutique merchandise isn't really boutique. It's a gimmick. Maybe it smokes great. Maybe it won't. Maybe you would never have cared if it was readily available as was the case with the prior Cringle Flake, 2023. People bitched that they wouldn't have purchased it had they known it wouldn't have sold out. Well, it that was the case, then why did you buy it to begin with. FOMO. People were upset with C&D over that one because they thought somehow the company was fraudulent in calling it a small release. That goes to show you. Just like this last release does. It's all about the hype and the hype lives in the mind.
Sorry you missed out. Message me and I’ll send you a tin :)
 
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telescopes

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Sorry you missed out. Message me and I’ll send you a tin :)
Ha, ha. Although I genuinely appreciate the thought. I am focused more on building up the things I really enjoy. I tried to log in during the rush and got the waiting room, but I was logging in to get some Sutliff Chocolate Supreme. I realized what was happening and was frustrated that due to the hype, I couldn't get either the C&D Mocha or the Sutliff Chocolate Supreme to make some more EZ1 with the 8oz of Frosty Mint I've got cellared. Priorities, right...
 

LotusEater

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Ha, ha. Although I genuinely appreciate the thought. I am focused more on building up the things I really enjoy. I tried to log in during the rush and got the waiting room, but I was logging in to get some Sutliff Chocolate Supreme. I realized what was happening and was frustrated that due to the hype, I couldn't get either the C&D Mocha or the Sutliff Chocolate Supreme to make some more EZ1 with the 8oz of Frosty Mint I've got cellared. Priorities, right...
Have you tried Sutliff 307 mocha strips? I’ve got a pound or two - they are quite nice. They taste like chocolate and raspberry to me
 

telescopes

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He’s the only true Frosty Mint lover I know of besides you. I’d rather just smoke a Camel menthol myself.
Remember his rule - one part out of 8 parts. But someone out there loves it more than all of us - 60 lbs worth apparently. I just found out @Manawydan got himself 8 oz worth of it. Seriously, when not smoked straight, it is a fantastic additive to make a great dessert blend. I've sent some of my EZ1 to other smokers and all of them have loved it - especially their wives who are happy to smoke with them.
 
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