I have I think four bulldogs, a pleasing traditional work horse pipes to me. Some really don't like them at all, but that is true of most shapes. Two of mine are Stanwell 32's, probably large Group 3, both smooth, one silke brune and one smooth. Another favorite is a Johs with a bigger bowl, a large Group 4. I have more billiards and Dublins, but I like the bulldogs a lot. The (to me) slightly awkward shape gives it a relaxed sturdy look.