Fills on Sasieni Four Dot Walnut

[craig61a]

I just finished cleaning up this St Andrews and noticed what appear to be fills. I would have thought this would not be possible during the family era...

 

[Briar Baron]

I am not an expert but it looks like fills to me. Even if not it should have been classified a "second".

 

[jpmcwjr]

Was that the original finish, or near to it?

 

[georged]

A Four Dot, you say? Where are the dots?

 

[voorhees]

What he said...

 

[ssjones]

A Four Dot won't have fills, but a 2nds line, Old England, etc. will.....which is why they were 2nd line pipes.

 

[tschiraldi]

I've never seen a fill on a family era Sasieni Four Dot. Ever.

 

[craig61a]

 

[jpmcwjr]

That pretty well answers that! I think I see more fills than just the three in the close up....

 

[dmcmtk]

If I had to guess, I'd say the pipe was made early during the 1979-86 “Transition” period. The shape alone speaks to that. Still, a bit of a QC problem for a first.

 

[craig61a]

Yes, I suppose that would be a possibility, but I thought they did away with the names in transition pipes.

 

[buckaroo]

It has an XS stamp too. Someone paid a premium for those fills too. Strange.

 

[georged]

If I had to guess, I'd say the pipe was made early during the 1979-86 “Transition” period. The shape alone speaks to that. Still, a bit of a QC problem for a first.

That's the same period those weird French 8-dot freehands with the blue "certification" string & seal were produced. (gak)
Whoever was running the show at that time made some strange choices.
Joel would not be pleased. :evil:

 

[sablebrush52]

That's the same period those weird French 8-dot freehands with the blue "certification" string & seal were produced. (gak)

Yep. And I've seen a couple of them sold as Family Era pieces on eBay.

 

[irishearl]

Gee, that's more fills than I've seen on a Peterson pipe. 8O

 

[craig61a]

Gee, that's more fills than I've seen on a Peterson pipe

The limited edition 8 dots were made in England by the transition owners and signed on the tag by Alfred Sasieni, or so I've read...

 

[goose61]

My Charatan-era Ben Wade doesn't even have that many fills in it (not to mention the size of them either).
Geez.

 

[pepesdad1]

That is embarrassing to say the least. I would have been pissed.

 

[craig61a]

Well, I didn't pay big bucks for it, and I sort of suspected at least one fault from the pictures. It does have some nice grain otherwise.
Perhaps this was made towards the end of the family era, and they were pushing out inventory so their accounts receivable and balance sheet looked good to a prospective buyer...
I like it, and it will probably be a fantastic smoker.

 

[ssjones]

Ah-ha, St. Andrew shape, not line! The St. Andrew (Shape 108) was a shape on the Family era chart, that is very curious.