Fiebing Dye

[Rigidman]

I'm getting ready to do a round of cleaning, reaming, sanding, and restoring once everything shows up. I wanted to be sure about the die. Is it regular fiebing , or fiebing pro? Or either? I have plenty of rags , cotton balls, qtips, alcohol, pipe cleaners, and daubers. Probably a lot I'm not mentioning. I either have it or it's coming.

I've bought several .99¢, $2.00, and $3.00 pipes and stummels to practice on. I also bought a couple lots of stems, ebonite stems. There will be questions. I've watched videos, read reborn pipes blogs, until my eyes bled. Not to mention my research here.

I figure I make the initial investment and I'll see if it sustains itself and hopefully payback the investment. Not looking to get rich, just tired of watching paint peel.

I've had a dozen surgeries on my back so I'm limited in what I can do and for how long. If anyone needs advice about back problems just ask me. I'm a pro. No surgery unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!! Try a chiropractor first, a good one, not a quack.

If surgery is necessary, get the laser surgery. You walk in and walk out. After my surgery I was in the hospital nearly a week. It took me 3 days just to walk.

I have some horror stories. Just don't do it. Anyway back to the grind after I put some ice on my eyes.

Thanks.

 

[Rigidman]

Oh I forgot to mention the pain, lots and lots of pain. Who knows you might like that sort of thing. I don't.

 

[olkofri]

Regular Fiebing's. NOT the Pro.

 

[Country Bladesmith]

Regular is alcohol based. Pro is oil based. Pipe makers always use the regular, though I’ve always wondered why.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Pipe makers always use the regular, though I’ve always wondered why.

The alcohol flashes off with a flame and sets the stain.

 

[mso489]

Not from personal experience, but from friends, I know your advice is on point. Try every less invasive remedy before surgery. Keep us posted on the pipe restorations.

 

[ChuckMijo]

In case you don’t know. You have to cut it. I use denatured Alcohol. Monkey around with percentages. Less is more.

 

[georged]

Cosmetically Topping & Refinishing a Classic English Stummel

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[Rigidman]

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I think I watched that video. Also read similar on reborn pipes. But will check to make sure. its a learning experience. Why use fire to flash the stain? I know they've done it for a long time. But it's wood, you don't use fire to flash stain on a chair or table. Maybe its a time thing. They use fire to burn off alcohol to force it to dry quickly so they can apply wax.

Speaking of wax I found one made by 3 bees (?)) Its made of white bees wax and food grade mineral oil. I priced buying the wax and oil separately but was more expensive than 3 bees. Its for cutting boards and wood furniture. I need to see if I have Murphy's soap. I have orange glo. Not sure if its safe for pipes.

Between Orange glo and Murphy's, which is preferred? I've used orange glo with scotch bright to clean old dirty furniture I've picked up and its always worked. But the stains are different, I'm in unknown territory with pipes.

Thanks

 

[lukasstrifeson]

I think I watched that video. Also read similar on reborn pipes. But will check to make sure. its a learning experience. Why use fire to flash the stain? I know they've done it for a long time. But it's wood, you don't use fire to flash stain on a chair or table. Maybe its a time thing. They use fire to burn off alcohol to force it to dry quickly so they can apply wax.

Speaking of wax I found one made by 3 bees (?)) Its made of white bees wax and food grade mineral oil. I priced buying the wax and oil separately but was more expensive than 3 bees. Its for cutting boards and wood furniture. I need to see if I have Murphy's soap. I have orange glo. Not sure if its safe for pipes.

Between Orange glo and Murphy's, which is preferred? I've used orange glo with scotch bright to clean old dirty furniture I've picked up and its always worked. But the stains are different, I'm in unknown territory with pipes.

Thanks

I believe the wisdom behind the fire to flash is to heat the wood making it ever so slightly more porous and more susceptible to the dye. I do this with all my projects.

I used the cheapest Feibing's I could find on Amazon for this S Bang restoration project:

Wax/oil wise, whatever you can find on SP.com will probably serve you well. The three (paragon, halyfax, obsidian stem oil or whatever they're called) comes to be like $30 and will last years/1000+ pipes of work.

Also I wouldn't be using furniture cleaner for your pipes. Just doesn't seem right, stick with stuff that's food safe: salt, high-proof alcohol, and some elbow grease should be all you need.

 

[Rigidman]

I bought some polishing wheels and a buff bob kit, with red and white rouge, a new drill from harbor freight because I'm not burning out my cordless. It cost much more. inexpensive electric corded drills are better built than inexpensive cordless. It cost me $21

The cordless usually use bushings over bearings. Electric uses bearings. Unless you buy it from Wal-Mart. The one I bought specifically has bearings. I have a vise I use for lock sport (picking locks).

I've practiced off and on since I was a teenager. A family friend was a locksmith, he taught me how and gave me a 7 piece pick set. I used to help out for money here and there. I could climb through windows easier than him.

What they show on movies and tv is completely wrong. I've only seen a couple cop shows that held the tools and used them properly. In one show they used the tensioner to pick the lock and the pick as a tensioner. I also gripe about military shows when they screw up something that's so easy to do correctly. Like saluting. Don't use Gomer Pyle has a template. American soldiers don't salute like the British.

Thanks for the info.I do appreciate it.

 

[BROBS]

I’ve always used the institutional water based.

 

[Rigidman]

I believe the wisdom behind the fire to flash is to heat the wood making it ever so slightly more porous and more susceptible to the dye. I do this with all my projects.

I used the cheapest Feibing's I could find on Amazon for this S Bang restoration project:

Wax/oil wise, whatever you can find on SP.com will probably serve you well. The three (paragon, halyfax, obsidian stem oil or whatever they're called) comes to be like $30 and will last years/1000+ pipes of work.

Also I wouldn't be using furniture cleaner for your pipes. Just doesn't seem right, stick with stuff that's food safe: salt, high-proof alcohol, and some elbow grease should be all you need.

Reborn pipes uses Murphy's. Used it to remove grime and hand oils. On the rim he sanded. Also a lot of people have mentioned using the mix I mentioned. Some say the pipe specific cleaners, waxes, and obsidian oil is expensive and there are alternatives.

But these alternatives are many. I'm just trying to get an idea of the most common. They usually work as well as the pipe specific stuff. I am tempted to get the stuff from briarville. Its slightly less expensive as the other stuff. Rebornpipes did a review.

They have a cleaner that compares to oxyclean. Its just a small bottle though. Oxyclean may be cheaper. But the initial outlay of money is probably higher.

Thanks

 

[BROBS]

If you wipe your stems with goof off it will bring all the oxidation to the surface.

I clean the stummels with water and sometimes a drop of dish soap on a toothbrush.

 

[georged]

Ah. The flash-with-fire thing. Though people love to think it is to "burn in" stain, very little heat is actually transferred to the stummel. Plus, the flambe trick only reduces the dry time... there is still a fair amount of alcohol present when the flame goes out.

Hobbyists and solo carvers do it now because they've seen it on factory tour films where it is done to reduce "station dwell time." (In a mass production setting, minutes matter.)

Much more control and functionally infinite heat transfer is accomplished with a hot air gun. Slower than a match, but a minute or two is meaningless in a solo setting.

 

[dmcmtk]

Reborn pipes uses Murphy's.

Have you evere smelled Murphy's? I couldn't even stand the smell of it when I used it to clean wooden floors years ago! But that's just me.

 

[georged]

Ouch

 

[dmcmtk]

I used the cheapest Feibing's I could find on Amazon for this S Bang restoration project

And it looks like it... Where did the grain go? Or is it just the pictures?

 

[ChuckMijo]

And it looks like it... Where did the grain go? Or is it just the pictures?

I thought that to. Either uncut, or desired look, or maybe the pics.

 

[lukasstrifeson]

Ouch

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- beggars can't be choosers; you get the S Bang you can actually find! To be fair, the stem is upside down here, but I def lost some more of it in the process. I think the collective conclusion we came to last time was a small gold/ivory band (by a professional!) might be the way to go

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And it looks like it... Where did the grain go? Or is it just the pictures?

It wasn't a particularly grainy pipe (it was originally that dark red brown) but I wanted a Castello Aristocratica look mostly to hide a pretty charred rim.

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I thought that to. Either uncut, or desired look, or maybe the pics.

Good eye! The top is pure dark brown due to the fact that I didn't have black at the time.