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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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For much of my adult life my late wife, and now my living wife, have kept a cat or two or three. When you have two or more, you find out how intricate the politics of cats are. We had two siblings, brother, as kittens, and they were competitive, but in a brotherly way. Then my wife moved down from the north bringing her little tuxedo female who had lived in-and-outdoors her whole life, hunted and so on. The boys were rejecting. If she'd arrived months earlier, she could have raised them, but she was just an outsider. She lived to be a good 19 or 20 years old, and though she was smaller than them, when she rolled over on her side and bared her claws and teeth, they passed on aggression. When she got ill at the end, they left her alone. Now the boys are the only cats, and they have developed an intricate political vying for who sleeps and eats where, and when they feel they aren't getting their share -- food, attention, enthusiasm. We work at keeping it even, but it is political. With larger groups of cats, this gets more complicated and intense. They are like people in that way.
 

timelord

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 30, 2017
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There was a facinating documentary on the secret lives of cats years ago on UK TV (sorry, can't remember the programme title or even which channel it was on). It showed that if cats were from the same litter then they would get on and even look after each others kittens.

But when cats were from different backgrounds then yes, it was essentially a full time cold war between them. But most of the cat owners (servants?) didn't even notice and thought the cats all got on fine!
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,622
For much of my young adulthood in college and military, I couldn't keep a pet, moving every year or two. But when I was a tyke, we had a cat who had a l litter. I suspect she trained me when I was about four in cat etiquette, because cats recognize me as trustworthy. Cats will come visit me when they never associate with visitors. One cat at a dinner party came up and nibbled my ear. My family calls me a cat magnet. I like their independence and somewhat intricate personalities. I also grew up with a dog, who is a worthy story in himself, and I still have his picture on the wall.
 

romaso

Lifer
Dec 29, 2010
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7,744
Pacific NW
I remember reading that cat communities can be very co-operative, the females sharing kitten raising duties, etc.

I really like cats. I had an independent outdoor cat when I was a kid and she taught me alot. I think cats are natural Libertarians.

We have two cats who luckily get along, and its very interesting being part of their community. We spend alot of time together. They love to come out on the deck with me for an evening smoke. The older one is such a gentleman, he was very welcoming when we brought the second one home. And even though he is on a diet, he shares everything with the younger one. He does have his sassy moods.

Reminds me of George Adamson's autobiography, 'My Pride & Joy.' He got along well with lions but had at least one very scary episode.

There's a book about cat communities I haven't gotten around to reading called 'Cat Culture' The Social World Of A Cat Shelter,' by Alger.

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romaso

Lifer
Dec 29, 2010
2,010
7,744
Pacific NW

I like that cats think for themselves. We adopted a stray from our neighborhood that the county shelter was going to kill. She'd been on her own for quite awhile, I could tell because it was a year before she would sleep in the open if she was alone. On her own she would burrow herself in somewhere hard to find. She was petite, about 7 pounds, and deaf, which made her survival that much more impressive.

In the early days after we'd adopted her, she was behind me in the kitchen waiting for food, and by mistake I stepped on her tail. She instantly swatted my ankle, she was going to take me on, all 220 pounds of me. She had the most amazing spirit.
 

romaso

Lifer
Dec 29, 2010
2,010
7,744
Pacific NW
A friend of mine had a cat and a large dog. He moved in with his brother, who had 2 large dogs. He planned to keep the cat in his room for awhile until everyone got used to each other.

He told me he left his room to get something and heard the dogs behind him. Realizing that he had left the bedroom door open, he rushed back to save the cat. As he got there, he saw the cat on the bed, spitting. One dog was running out the door, one was huddled in the corner of the room, and one was on its back on the floor.

It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the cat!
 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,552
5,030
Slidell, LA
My oldest son and his current wife have 4 or 5 cats, two dogs and two birds (Conures). Since one dog is bigger than a shetland pony and the other is an older than dirt Pug, two of the cats operate as if they rule the house (one cat stays outside by choice, the other cat just ignores everyone.) The two ruling cats do things like climb on your chest and head butts you until you either scratch between the ears or pet them.

All that is true until the bird cages or open and the Conures come out of the cage. The cats tend to go into hiding at that point. The Conures have occasionally used the large dog as a landing strip.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,676
31,268
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
For much of my young adulthood in college and military, I couldn't keep a pet, moving every year or two. But when I was a tyke, we had a cat who had a l litter. I suspect she trained me when I was about four in cat etiquette, because cats recognize me as trustworthy. Cats will come visit me when they never associate with visitors. One cat at a dinner party came up and nibbled my ear. My family calls me a cat magnet. I like their independence and somewhat intricate personalities. I also grew up with a dog, who is a worthy story in himself, and I still have his picture on the wall.
my first cat was psycho that taught me cats real well. People call me a cat whisperer. Though they can pick up on subtle things about people. After rescuing my current cat, many cats that ignored me before became my friend. I think they knew I was taking care of a cat that had such a rough time of it (just glad those assholes could be used as an argument for the efficacy of karma).
 

magicpiper

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 9, 2018
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Accidentally posted before finishing the above post…

I recall reading an article in a publication from the U.K. about the mysterious lives house cats lead. Evidently, it is more common for British house cats to spend the day outdoors and inside at night vs. strictly inside as most American cats do. They put gps trackers on a few neighborhood cats in a suburb outside of London and found that many led double lives. Their owners (servants) would let them out in the AM and they would wander up to 2 or 3 miles, every day, with little variance. Along that path, many of the cats had second and third families that looked after them. Some spent their days in auto shops or working warehouses where they were fed and entertained by the employees. Some would go to other houses and spend their days with their daytime families. Evening would come and it was time to head home to their true home. Most owners were shocked to find out their cats were two-timing them. One Tom cat had three old ladies that each thought she owned him.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,676
31,268
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
my first cat was psycho that taught me cats real well. People call me a cat whisperer. Though they can pick up on subtle things about people. After rescuing my current cat, many cats that ignored me before became my friend. I think they knew I was taking care of a cat that had such a rough time of it (just glad those assholes could be used as an argument for the efficacy of karma).
I have to say this about it. One cat that used to ignore me was this big old orange cat that only liked it's people. First time I saw it after rescuing my current cat, Pumpkin (I give cats nicknames, and big round orange likes sitting on the front porch...) ran off his porch meowing at me then sharking the legs rolling around belly up and purring. Got lots of pets but here is a first when I tried to leave the cat hissed at me, I never had a cat use a hiss to say stay.