and as to "emotional thinking", its just politcal controlled thinking. IE, emergency room staff should treat a non white male first, even for say an upset stomach even though a white man could be having a heart attack in the ER waiting room, or be sitting in the ER waiting room with a splitting axe embedded in his leg.
Feedback Loop Disintegration, Anyone?
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It's amusing how "hallucinations" is used as a euphemism for blatant, slanderous lies.
JHK's blog the other day was about AI...you just gotta love this:
Note: last April, conservative activist Robby Starbuck sued Facebook when its chatbot reported out falsely that he had been on-the-scene for the Jan 6, 2021 US Capitol protest (he was in Tennessee that day). Facebook’s parent company, Meta, settled the case with Starbuck in August, 2025, for undisclosed terms and the company apologized publicly.
Two days ago, Mr. Starbuck sued Google for defamation (with malice and negligence) when it’s Bard A-I output alleged that he was a “child rapist,” a “serial sexual abuser,” that he abused and stalked his ex-wife (Starbuck states in his lawsuit that he has no ex-wife). It accused him further of fraud, embezzlement, drug charges, stalking business partners, and being a “shooter” or “person of interest” in a 1991 murder case (Starbuck was two years old at the time), of appearing in Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs (untrue), working as a porn actor, and voicing support for the Ku Klux Klan.
The A-I cited non-existent news articles from outlets such as Newsweek, The New York Post, Rolling Stone, Mediaite, The Daily Beast, and Salon, along with fake URLs and headlines (e.g., “Robby Starbuck Responds to Murder Accusations”). Starbuck demonstrated this in a podcast episode on October 22–23, 2025, where he queried the A-I live.
Google spokesman José Castañeda attributed the issues to its A-I “hallucinating” — which tells you that the recursive feedback of garbage content in A-I is already well-advanced. Prepare for ever more interesting mischief, while you watch your portfolio of index stocks go up in a vapor.
www.kunstler.com
JHK's blog the other day was about AI...you just gotta love this:
Note: last April, conservative activist Robby Starbuck sued Facebook when its chatbot reported out falsely that he had been on-the-scene for the Jan 6, 2021 US Capitol protest (he was in Tennessee that day). Facebook’s parent company, Meta, settled the case with Starbuck in August, 2025, for undisclosed terms and the company apologized publicly.
Two days ago, Mr. Starbuck sued Google for defamation (with malice and negligence) when it’s Bard A-I output alleged that he was a “child rapist,” a “serial sexual abuser,” that he abused and stalked his ex-wife (Starbuck states in his lawsuit that he has no ex-wife). It accused him further of fraud, embezzlement, drug charges, stalking business partners, and being a “shooter” or “person of interest” in a 1991 murder case (Starbuck was two years old at the time), of appearing in Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs (untrue), working as a porn actor, and voicing support for the Ku Klux Klan.
The A-I cited non-existent news articles from outlets such as Newsweek, The New York Post, Rolling Stone, Mediaite, The Daily Beast, and Salon, along with fake URLs and headlines (e.g., “Robby Starbuck Responds to Murder Accusations”). Starbuck demonstrated this in a podcast episode on October 22–23, 2025, where he queried the A-I live.
Google spokesman José Castañeda attributed the issues to its A-I “hallucinating” — which tells you that the recursive feedback of garbage content in A-I is already well-advanced. Prepare for ever more interesting mischief, while you watch your portfolio of index stocks go up in a vapor.
Reality v. Garbage
"The business incentives driving consumer AI development remain fundamentally misaligned with reducing hallucinations." —The Singularity Hub on "X"
www.kunstler.com
Wow, we have a replacement for cnn, msnbc, and the enquirer now.It's amusing how "hallucinations" is used as a euphemism for blatant, slanderous lies.
JHK's blog the other day was about AI...you just gotta love this:
Note: last April, conservative activist Robby Starbuck sued Facebook when its chatbot reported out falsely that he had been on-the-scene for the Jan 6, 2021 US Capitol protest (he was in Tennessee that day). Facebook’s parent company, Meta, settled the case with Starbuck in August, 2025, for undisclosed terms and the company apologized publicly.
Two days ago, Mr. Starbuck sued Google for defamation (with malice and negligence) when it’s Bard A-I output alleged that he was a “child rapist,” a “serial sexual abuser,” that he abused and stalked his ex-wife (Starbuck states in his lawsuit that he has no ex-wife). It accused him further of fraud, embezzlement, drug charges, stalking business partners, and being a “shooter” or “person of interest” in a 1991 murder case (Starbuck was two years old at the time), of appearing in Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs (untrue), working as a porn actor, and voicing support for the Ku Klux Klan.
The A-I cited non-existent news articles from outlets such as Newsweek, The New York Post, Rolling Stone, Mediaite, The Daily Beast, and Salon, along with fake URLs and headlines (e.g., “Robby Starbuck Responds to Murder Accusations”). Starbuck demonstrated this in a podcast episode on October 22–23, 2025, where he queried the A-I live.
Google spokesman José Castañeda attributed the issues to its A-I “hallucinating” — which tells you that the recursive feedback of garbage content in A-I is already well-advanced. Prepare for ever more interesting mischief, while you watch your portfolio of index stocks go up in a vapor.
Reality v. Garbage
"The business incentives driving consumer AI development remain fundamentally misaligned with reducing hallucinations." —The Singularity Hub on "X"
WOnder what those AI programs say about that dog boy.
All depends on what you're invested in.
AI ain't ready for prime time, but eventually will become a useful tool. In the meantime, giddy dumb thrill seekers will go after the latest glittering bauble.
It's amusing how "hallucinations" is used as a euphemism for blatant, slanderous lies.
JHK's blog the other day was about AI...you just gotta love this:
Note: last April, conservative activist Robby Starbuck sued Facebook when its chatbot reported out falsely that he had been on-the-scene for the Jan 6, 2021 US Capitol protest (he was in Tennessee that day). Facebook’s parent company, Meta, settled the case with Starbuck in August, 2025, for undisclosed terms and the company apologized publicly.
Two days ago, Mr. Starbuck sued Google for defamation (with malice and negligence) when it’s Bard A-I output alleged that he was a “child rapist,” a “serial sexual abuser,” that he abused and stalked his ex-wife (Starbuck states in his lawsuit that he has no ex-wife). It accused him further of fraud, embezzlement, drug charges, stalking business partners, and being a “shooter” or “person of interest” in a 1991 murder case (Starbuck was two years old at the time), of appearing in Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs (untrue), working as a porn actor, and voicing support for the Ku Klux Klan.
The A-I cited non-existent news articles from outlets such as Newsweek, The New York Post, Rolling Stone, Mediaite, The Daily Beast, and Salon, along with fake URLs and headlines (e.g., “Robby Starbuck Responds to Murder Accusations”). Starbuck demonstrated this in a podcast episode on October 22–23, 2025, where he queried the A-I live.
Google spokesman José Castañeda attributed the issues to its A-I “hallucinating” — which tells you that the recursive feedback of garbage content in A-I is already well-advanced. Prepare for ever more interesting mischief, while you watch your portfolio of index stocks go up in a vapor.
Reality v. Garbage
"The business incentives driving consumer AI development remain fundamentally misaligned with reducing hallucinations." —The Singularity Hub on "X"
Exactly the sort of thing ^^^^ I was referring to when I started the thread... a thousand information "snakes" that are currently in the process of swallowing their own tails and regurgitating what comes out near the base of them.
Non-stop, 24/7, millions of times each second, planet-wide.
So. How does the polluted "data tank" or "info tank" the snakes live in get cleaned up?
I don't think there's even a theoretical way, never mind a practical / implementable one.
The motivation of Planet Earth to do all this now and worry about the consequences later?
Money, of course.
Sounds pretty much like social media.
The AI eventually will be used to manipulate the masses. Imagine those that simply do not have the knowledge to verify the information they get, or those that take the validity of the output of an AI for granted. "No questions asked. Since AI said this it, this is how it is"...
Also, the more AI develops, the more things get complicated. It was recently when an AI started to blackmail its developers when it was told it will be decommissioned, and another one with the role of a salesman telling lies to promote stuff. It gets scary, and those who will be totally dependent on it might just get trapped in a no way disaster scenario.
Also, the more AI develops, the more things get complicated. It was recently when an AI started to blackmail its developers when it was told it will be decommissioned, and another one with the role of a salesman telling lies to promote stuff. It gets scary, and those who will be totally dependent on it might just get trapped in a no way disaster scenario.
Every year something big happens online via tik tok about Ai.
This year it was the most popular YouTube or tik tok female promoter of the tour de France or French tennis championship being a computer generated image of a female doing hourly updates on said event between doing sales pitches for stuff.
2 years ago. Some guy almost got hung because he had created an Ai generated female to do tik tok videos .
Someone once said you can't rape the unwilling.
This year it was the most popular YouTube or tik tok female promoter of the tour de France or French tennis championship being a computer generated image of a female doing hourly updates on said event between doing sales pitches for stuff.
2 years ago. Some guy almost got hung because he had created an Ai generated female to do tik tok videos .
Someone once said you can't rape the unwilling.
The amazing thing is how it just makes stuff up entirely. It's not just that it's referencing preexisting bad info online...it just invents elaborate, detailed, completely new and completely fictional answers...as if it has no concept of reality at all.
Also sounds like social media.
From the Dawn of Man until recently, the wise man's advice regarding information was always, "Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see."
Put another way, to avoid being used or victimized by Nature---especially other humans---you must be thoughtful, cynical, and selectively suspicious. (Or rely on simple good luck, of course.)
Fast forward to today plus a few years...
No one, anywhere, can believe or trust anything because verification is impossible.
But Life must go on. A way to carry on day-to-day must be found.
Let's see...
Something absolutely, completely, 100% reliably trustworthy.
A source of information---and implicitly, guidance---that will remove all confusion, and Make Life Easier For Everyone.
Something that is so reliable and trustworthy that to show any doubt regarding it will get you in mighty big trouble, in fact.
Put another way, to avoid being used or victimized by Nature---especially other humans---you must be thoughtful, cynical, and selectively suspicious. (Or rely on simple good luck, of course.)
Fast forward to today plus a few years...
No one, anywhere, can believe or trust anything because verification is impossible.
But Life must go on. A way to carry on day-to-day must be found.
Let's see...
Something absolutely, completely, 100% reliably trustworthy.
A source of information---and implicitly, guidance---that will remove all confusion, and Make Life Easier For Everyone.
Something that is so reliable and trustworthy that to show any doubt regarding it will get you in mighty big trouble, in fact.
How do we know that you're the real georged? You could be some sort of simulacrum attempting to sow confusion and despair.
Ai is so prevalent people don't care. When you have amateur writers brag their stories are only 50% AI created..
I've said before what's more concerning to me is how people will abuse AI rather than some Skynet apocalypse...