FDA Regulations: New Article Aug 2, 2016 by Tom Wolfe
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To timpiper
Retailers do have a problem with old tobacco stock that does not carry the newly required warning labels. They must be sold before May 2018.
Pipes would also fall under the warning label requirements, but the FDA's required labels "this product conains nicotene" and "this product is made from tobacco" obviously do not apply. This is a great example of where pipes just "fell thru the cracks". They are really clueless when it comes to pipe making. I am still awaiting their reply to question like this.
Yes, they do know about house blends. They just do not care. Retailers that blend their own tobacco are considered pipe tobacco manufacturers under their rules. This is true if all they do is package popular blends, like 1-Q.
As to estate pipes, the FDA makes no mention of secondary markets, so that should not be a problem. (Just do not remind them about it.)
Tom Wolfe
Retailers do have a problem with old tobacco stock that does not carry the newly required warning labels. They must be sold before May 2018.
Pipes would also fall under the warning label requirements, but the FDA's required labels "this product conains nicotene" and "this product is made from tobacco" obviously do not apply. This is a great example of where pipes just "fell thru the cracks". They are really clueless when it comes to pipe making. I am still awaiting their reply to question like this.
Yes, they do know about house blends. They just do not care. Retailers that blend their own tobacco are considered pipe tobacco manufacturers under their rules. This is true if all they do is package popular blends, like 1-Q.
As to estate pipes, the FDA makes no mention of secondary markets, so that should not be a problem. (Just do not remind them about it.)
Tom Wolfe
Thanks Tom Wolfe, I found your article summed things up nicely and I posted a link to it on my Yahoo Australia pipe smokers forum. When referring to vintage tobacco, I was meaning in a secondary market sense similar to estate pipes, but its not usually called estate tobacco.
The product has already been purchased from a retailer, however years later its sold to us hobbyists and collectors of well aged or no longer produced blends.
As you know, consignment stores, vintage dealers and some online tobacconists on sell these tins.
I would have thought the consigned tobacco tin is owned by the original owner and never by the one providing the service to sell it. -Tim
The product has already been purchased from a retailer, however years later its sold to us hobbyists and collectors of well aged or no longer produced blends.
As you know, consignment stores, vintage dealers and some online tobacconists on sell these tins.
I would have thought the consigned tobacco tin is owned by the original owner and never by the one providing the service to sell it. -Tim
the pipe makers took time and effort to make a piece of art, and it is so sad to see that some had made a successful business of this, and now they are at risk of loosing it all, this is not right, some of these pipes can last us a life time and pass it on to people we care about.
To timpiper,
It is hard to say how the FDA would react to a complaint about individual resale of old tobacco. Without a complaint being filed, they would not know. This is what I meant when I suggested "staying under the radar." It would apply to vintage tobacco sales and estate pipes, just as well as it does to artisan pipemakers.
Tom Wolfe
It is hard to say how the FDA would react to a complaint about individual resale of old tobacco. Without a complaint being filed, they would not know. This is what I meant when I suggested "staying under the radar." It would apply to vintage tobacco sales and estate pipes, just as well as it does to artisan pipemakers.
Tom Wolfe
It's less than two hours till doomsday, and my thoughts are that if this thing holds up to lawsuits, we are then done as a free people, and pipe smoking will be the least of our worries.
Interview....,a little bit about nothing, nice to hear someone out side the topic talking about it. A Billion Lives is the name of the movie. Herman Cain brought up the legislation to clip the wings of the FDA. Glad he's at least talking about it, nothing about pipes and cigars in the discussion though.
Tom:
Refarding pipes, are glass pipes, cache pipes, water pipes, bongos, hookahs, etc to also be regulated by the FDA since tobacco can also be smoked in those?
Refarding pipes, are glass pipes, cache pipes, water pipes, bongos, hookahs, etc to also be regulated by the FDA since tobacco can also be smoked in those?
It's an infinitesimal win. The judge supported the illogical argument that changing the size or shape of the container defines the contents as a new tobacco product which will need to undergo one of the deeming processes.
By that line of logic, the judge should step down as he's no longer a judge unless he's wearing the same clothing that he wore when sworn to the bench. If his packaging is different he's not a judge if he's not wearing the same clothes and would be required to requalify for any change of clothing, change of deodorant, hair color, glasses, etc, before being resworn to the bench.
The law is an ass.
By that line of logic, the judge should step down as he's no longer a judge unless he's wearing the same clothing that he wore when sworn to the bench. If his packaging is different he's not a judge if he's not wearing the same clothes and would be required to requalify for any change of clothing, change of deodorant, hair color, glasses, etc, before being resworn to the bench.
The law is an ass.
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