That really didn't start until McClelland went out of business. You hardly ever heard anything about them except someone always had to say their blends tasted like ketchup.
Fake St. Bruno is About!
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LOL! Yeah, that's going a bit too far. Not tea! I hope the bastards responsible for that one got 20 years hard labour!
globally it's a big business. Even places with low taxes one can turn a tidy profit even just by being cheaper then the taxed product.
Makes sense. Even with cigarette smoking declining (in the west, anyway) there's still plenty of them about. Me for one.
as long as they don't sell you American tea bags it should be fine. Seriously most counterfeits are probably going to be better then that stuff. (sorry I just hate the crap tea my girlfriend drinks).LOL! Yeah, that's going a bit too far. Not tea! I hope the bastards responsible for that one got 20 years hard labour!
and something about tobacco creates steady customers. Probably the way it smells.
Jesus F Christ! Why would anyone bother to do this? There's got to be little to no profit. Just cretinous thugs?
I first started pipe smoking not long before McClelland went out of business. I remember there being many people who just didn’t really care for their tobacco but now that they are gone everybody seems to love everything they had put out.
Is everyone absolutely sure that it really is a counterfeit? Is there no way that the Spanish version is different than the ordinary European one? I've seen discussions about the Spanish St Bruno being different.
that's proof they're counterfeit anything. Next thing you know you'll get a dog and then find out it's just a painted raccoon and then you're going to end up being that weird raccoon guy who tells everyone they're the best dog you can own. And your cat is just going to be some midget with bad face paint and those fake ears girls wear when they're trying to convince you their cute along with their padded bras and all that. It's almost like people are too clever for their own good.
I'm inclined to think that the packaging may differ in Gibraltar. As far as the picture of the tobacco - if that's actually the tobacco, it doesn't do much to prove or disprove anything.
So the tobacco was delivered to the other party without paying the taxes... And you're going to go to your solicitor with that?
Where's the email from Mac Baren? That would go a long way towards establishing your credibility in this matter.
"You shall"... If you don't like the trade then reverse it and go on your way. Starting an online pissing match, making demands and prophecies about fake tobacco is rather gauche.
The PM Investigative Internet sleuths are kicking into high gear. Conspiracy theories abound.
So the tobacco was delivered to the other party without paying the taxes... And you're going to go to your solicitor with that?
Where's the email from Mac Baren? That would go a long way towards establishing your credibility in this matter.
"You shall"... If you don't like the trade then reverse it and go on your way. Starting an online pissing match, making demands and prophecies about fake tobacco is rather gauche.
The PM Investigative Internet sleuths are kicking into high gear. Conspiracy theories abound.
I was thinking the same thing. I've seen company's changing their labels in the past few years. Blends drastically changing too.
We could have some proof if Simong showed us the email he claims Mac Baren sent him confirming this.
Yep, Christmas Cheer would get released and remain in stock for weeks or even a couple of months if memory serves me correct. I remember making purchases of McClelland blends from CupOjoes and every tin had 3-4 years of age on it.
I can also remember going to the Chicago Pipe Show and Mary at the McClelland booth handing out samples and talking to every customer that came by, but there was certainly no rush to clean them out. Also, the McCrannies table had a mound of Red Flake and Red Ribbon remaining even on the last day of the show. Ha, one of my biggest regrets is not buying more from them.
That’s not to say they did not have loyal a loyal following, because they certainly did. However, there was just not the fervor for the product that exists today.
I'd like to see the email from Mac Baren too.
The packaging looks awfully good for a counterfeit.
The packaging looks awfully good for a counterfeit.
The possibility that is is fake, is probably much smaller than the very real chance that it is just packaged differently. Maybe something to do with the fact that it is sold in continental Europe, but not the EU, which would make perfect sense.
First off, not trying to ‘extort’ anything out of anyone.
The original trade was 4 pouches for 10 pipes. HW said his relation would be travelling to the UK & she could post them on from there. Perfect! If I remember rightly I sent the pipes to Gibraltar a couple of weeks before the relation arrived in the UK.
Later on I put up some tins for trade, HW wanted the McClellands, fine.
Knowing the price of St. Bruno to be 6-8€ over there, I asked for 4 pouches for a 12 year old tin of McClellands 1776. Sounded like a good deal for the both of us I thought. Nobody get’s scalped & we both get a comparatively good deal.
I lived in Spain from 96 to the early 00’s. Having worked in & around Gibraltar a few times, quite familiar with what goes on there.
Gibraltar is well known for it’s cheap tobacco, diamond & jewellery shops. It’s also well known for it’s back street sellers of fake diamonds, jewellery & tobacco (& other shenanigans).
I suppose HW could of been unaware that he was buying fake tobacco, but I doubt it to be honest. Anybody who lives there knows where to go & where not to go.
When I recieved the email from Mac Barens this morning, thought then as I do now, that HW knowingly sent dodgy tobacco.
I don’t know how to ‘paste in’ the email from Mac Barens. If I can forward it onto a moderator, I will do. If he could possibly cover over my email address please, as I don’t want to have that showing on an open forum. Found out I’ve been the victim of ‘identity fraud’ today which hasn’t put me in the most tranquil of moods to tell you the truth. Lol
The original trade was 4 pouches for 10 pipes. HW said his relation would be travelling to the UK & she could post them on from there. Perfect! If I remember rightly I sent the pipes to Gibraltar a couple of weeks before the relation arrived in the UK.
Later on I put up some tins for trade, HW wanted the McClellands, fine.
Knowing the price of St. Bruno to be 6-8€ over there, I asked for 4 pouches for a 12 year old tin of McClellands 1776. Sounded like a good deal for the both of us I thought. Nobody get’s scalped & we both get a comparatively good deal.
I lived in Spain from 96 to the early 00’s. Having worked in & around Gibraltar a few times, quite familiar with what goes on there.
Gibraltar is well known for it’s cheap tobacco, diamond & jewellery shops. It’s also well known for it’s back street sellers of fake diamonds, jewellery & tobacco (& other shenanigans).
I suppose HW could of been unaware that he was buying fake tobacco, but I doubt it to be honest. Anybody who lives there knows where to go & where not to go.
When I recieved the email from Mac Barens this morning, thought then as I do now, that HW knowingly sent dodgy tobacco.
I don’t know how to ‘paste in’ the email from Mac Barens. If I can forward it onto a moderator, I will do. If he could possibly cover over my email address please, as I don’t want to have that showing on an open forum. Found out I’ve been the victim of ‘identity fraud’ today which hasn’t put me in the most tranquil of moods to tell you the truth. Lol
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