Someone mentioned that on a German pipe website the consensus seems to be that the new MacBaren capstan is a shadow of its former self, so I don't hold out high hopes for that blend either.
Exclusive Breaking News: Capstan and Three Nuns Pipe Tobaccos Return to the USA
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Well, I hate to be a gnattering nabob of negativity, so on the positive side, I will personally undertake to buy 200 tins if they bring back the original three nuns VAPER.
At least the new Three Nuns is in a different tin from the square old one so it is easily recognizable and will not be confused with the classic perique blend. I am hoping that Mac Baren got their hands on the Three Nuns name so that they could go back to the original blend and score big time. It would be a brilliant move on their part.
Dear Mac Baren, if you read this thread, you have the opportunity to really do something special, I hope you understand how loved the original Three Nuns was and how popular it would be if it contained the original recipe. You could easily put a 20.00 price tag on it and put a minimum price that retailers can sell it for protecting the brand. Cigar mfgs like Davidoff put minimum prices on their cigars all the time. If you think that the new version is going to sell like hot cakes, don't be so sure. With the number of internet forums out there and the way the word gets out, I honestly do not think that the current Three Nuns version is going to be a major hit. It might do ok, but in my opinion it won't get close to the numbers of Old Dark Fired which is a brilliant blend. You could easily make Three Nuns the number one blend in your stable if you go back to the original.
Dear Mac Baren, if you read this thread, you have the opportunity to really do something special, I hope you understand how loved the original Three Nuns was and how popular it would be if it contained the original recipe. You could easily put a 20.00 price tag on it and put a minimum price that retailers can sell it for protecting the brand. Cigar mfgs like Davidoff put minimum prices on their cigars all the time. If you think that the new version is going to sell like hot cakes, don't be so sure. With the number of internet forums out there and the way the word gets out, I honestly do not think that the current Three Nuns version is going to be a major hit. It might do ok, but in my opinion it won't get close to the numbers of Old Dark Fired which is a brilliant blend. You could easily make Three Nuns the number one blend in your stable if you go back to the original.
Any news on the Capstan Blue Flake; I think I'm most interested to see how that turns out. Also I mention this in the other thread, (there seem to be a couple pertaining this topic) couldn't you add blending perique?
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No matter, it wouldn't be the same.
That would be like baking a carrot cake, but you forgot to add the cinnamon and sugar, and then you just throw those ingredients on top of the cake before eating it.
You could, but it wouldn't be the same thing. It wouldn't marry the same way, or at all if you smoked it right away.
No matter, it wouldn't be the same.
That would be like baking a carrot cake, but you forgot to add the cinnamon and sugar, and then you just throw those ingredients on top of the cake before eating it.
Perhaps the problem with reprising the original 3N is the Perique source? There is/was the old St. James Per, and I gather the current more common one is Green River Burley. Mark Ryan did a lot to breathe life in the Per biz - several years ago I recall talk of the imminent demise of Per.
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Well as I see it that major problem that people are having is that they are bringing back a blend that is the same in NAME only... Kinda misleading. I agree with the Mustang/Fiesta analogy posted earlier. Oh well.... I am done harping about it!!! :D
Time for a bowl of Escudo since I have been talking VaPers so much....
Time for a bowl of Escudo since I have been talking VaPers so much....
Personally, I am extremely excited to try both Capstan Blue and Yellow. I have been wanting to try these blends ever since I got into VAs. Even if the Mac Baren versions are not the same as the old Capstan, I never got a chance to try the old so I'm not too concerned with my opinion of the blends being spoiled.
Mike, my issue with the new Three Nuns is the name. I believe that when you completely change a blend then you should change the name. Using the Three Nuns name to me is bait and switch. They are trading on an iconic name in the pipe world and not giving people the basic components. Yes every blend will change over the years because crops do change, but to take one of the major components out of it and then call it the same just doesn't sit right with me. They should call it the New Three Nuns Not To Be Confused With The Great Classic. I don't think it would look to good on the tin though. lol
Mike, jiminks has smoked the new version and I trust his opinion that there is no perique in it. I am hoping that maybe Mac Baren will take this opportunity to re create the original and restore the proud name of Three Nuns to it's former glory.
Can you believe we are making such a big deal out of one freaking tobacco blend, lol, we are such geeks.
Can you believe we are making such a big deal out of one freaking tobacco blend, lol, we are such geeks.
Harris, Kevin, Mike, and Rothnh: The VaBur version is good, but that is all it is. There are better VaBurs on the market. MacBaren has a chance to make it great again by going back to the former recipe. Yes, I know tobacco crops change over time, etc., but the original recipe would still be better than the current, in my opinion. I was, as some of you know, smoking the current blend today, even as the news broke. I enjoyed it - I even recommend it - but it is a pale reflection of the VaPer version. Having been a regular Three Nuns smoker since the 1990s, I'd rather not settle for the new version, and as Harris well suggested, would pay extra for the VaPer blend. I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but I have to call it as I see it.
I've never smoked Capstan, so I've no comment on that.
I've never smoked Capstan, so I've no comment on that.
I agree with Harris about the name. Even before the recent announcement, I didn't consider the current "Three Nuns" to bear any relation to the original, other than the tin and the cut. On its own merits, of course, there is currently a European market for the dark fired version, but calling it "Three Nuns" always seemed silly to me.
I guess I should try to be excited about being able to buy Capstan from South Carolina, though.
I guess I should try to be excited about being able to buy Capstan from South Carolina, though.
I just bought five tins of Three Nuns from Denmark. Trying to recall what the original was like thirty years ago and now is way too difficult for me. I liked the Danish Three Nuns, but was not Wowed by it. I'm willing to try the Mac Baren version and see how that compares. By the way, how would it compare to MacBaren HH Acadian Perique? I've never tried it, so can't say.
It's kind of false advertising using a big legendary name for a different product. They should call it protestant pipe or something, but not 3 Nuns.
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