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Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
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Special storage was one thing I was thinking of.

But just thinking about the bare minimum basics for each... with a pipe you need the pipe (one time cost), pipe cleaners, and tobacco. If you water-flush after every smoke, pipe cleaners might not even be necessary for minimal. Cheap Czech tool is handy, and I'd recommend over a finger, especially if you don't have a narrow enough finger for the pipe bowl.

With cigars, aside from the sticks, you don't necessarily need a cutter like how a pipe doesn't necessarily need a tamper of some kind, but even a basic cheap cutter costs more than a Czech tool. And unless you want garbage stale smokes, you need a humidor of some kind, which can get costly just for something basic, whereas pipe tobacco can just stay in its original tin in a cabinet. And you have way more lighting options and cheaper options for pipe than for cigar—you can light pipes with matches and $1 gas station lighters, whereas while technically you could light a cigar with something other than a torch lighter, it's a huge pita to do.

But only considering basic necessary tools and basic quality-of-life tools (that are only technically unnecessary, like you don't need a tamper if you use your fingers or a nail and you don't need a cutter if you use a pocket knife or a nail), pipes are cheaper in that regard if you don't count the cost of the pipe itself.

Or another way to look at it is that pipes have a higher up-front cost (including cost of pipe), but lower maintenance and accoutrement costs than cigars.

But just looking at the work involved aspect, they're probably about equal for bare minimum. If you smoke a pipe correctly, all it takes is wiping out the bowl and running a cleaner through. My meer that I smoke every day won't pass a cleaner to the bowl with the stem on, and I still only "deep clean" the thing twice a year at best, which just involves unscrewing the mortise and tenon from the shank and stem and just running a drill bit (by hand) in the draft hole of the pipe and scooping out any excessive gunk from either part using a toothpick.

And then getting ready to smoke, I don't even dry my tobacco. If it's not a flake or plug, it's just load and go, and I would imagine is no more time or effort than unwrapping and cutting a cigar.

Another point I might make though, just me personally... most pipe tobaccos smell way better than most cigars when being smoked. That's maybe just me, but I haven't once smelled a cigar being smoked and enjoyed the smell as a third-party, and most are actually downright offensive to me and at best, are just only mildly annoying (cigars). It's actually part of why I don't go to smoking lounges—all the cigar smoke ruins my pipe smoking experience.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
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I didn't even think about this. Very good point!!

Something else in regards to the storing I forgot to mention. You have to be careful with the ambient conditions the containers sit in.

No container has a 100% perfect seal…

I personally have to move my containers around through out the day, as my AC will make my house to cold/dry in some areas, so when this happens, I move them in a warmer/humid location.

I can’t image having central AC in an area, where it becomes somewhat to cool and dry, where someone stores their cigars.

If you really get vested into cigars some what high end, you do need to seriously keep an eye on them all the time, depending on the type of container and ambient conditions, because nothing is fool proof, unless you have some ultra high end self regulated storage case.
 

Humblepipe

Lifer
Sep 13, 2019
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So, a little over a week ago I had to get all four of my wisdom teeth pulled.

In the exam before the surgery, the surgeon asked if I smoked. I said, cigarettes and a pipe from time to time. He asked how I liked the pipe. I said quite a bit! He told me he smoked cigars. I told him one benefit I had heard of smoking pipes over cigars is that you aren't supposed to relight a cigar, but pipes can be set down for days at a time and smoked later.

Fast forward to my follow up after the surgery. I showed him this picture on my phone, told him the story of @Humblepipe giving me this pipe (which is still one of my favorites), and how great the piping community is. I said if this pipe doesn't get you to smoke a pipe I don't know what will!!


He seemed interested! Asked if it takes a filter, and if you just stuff the tobacco in there. I didn't complicate things for him. Just tried to nudge him to buy a pipe. I told him about Boswells and that there were plenty of cigar smokers, but that we need more pipe smokers! The nurses mentioned another surgeon/dentist that smoked a pipe and they all seemed to enjoy my enthusiasm 😁

Anyway, been a while since I had posted and I think he just might go buy a pipe! Mission accomplished.

Very glad you continue to enjoy the pipe, brother.
 
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Grangerous

Lifer
Dec 8, 2020
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I have friends so enamored by the Cigar hobby that they try their hand at rolling.

Cigars are an expensive endeavor. But then again, so are pipes. Yes, Pipe Collections and TAD and Tampers cost money, just as Humidors, Torches and cutters.

But the main difference between the two arrives after establishing the preference for Cigars or Pipes.

The cost of the tobacco. Whereas, many of us have a cellar with more than we may ever smoke in this lifetime and the next…

The Cigar smoker will be required to buy his favorites at a far higher price than say, our favorite pipe blend.
 
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jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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"Cigars are an expensive endeavor. But then again, so are pipes. Yes, Pipe Collections and TAD and Tampers cost money, just as Humidors, Torches and cutters."

Disagree to the extent that over the long haul, pipe smoking is far thriftier than cigars, unless you're smoking $2.00 sticks. Huge caveat: you can't go for a what many of us have.
 
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