Effects On GLP blends When(and if) New FDA Rules Kick In?

[kola]

I haven't dug too deep into the up and coming FDA changes/rulings as to how it may effect the tobacco markets. But my biggest concern and question is in regards to GL Pease blends. Will any of his blends be discontinued? Some of my favorites are Lagonda, Abington, Odyssey, Kensington, Key Largo, Triple Play and a few others.
I did a search here and couldn't find anything helpful. Any links or comments would be appreciated.

 

[sablebrush52]

If you go onto tobaccoreviews you will see that the date that the Pease blend was introduced to the marketplace is listed in the heading. Blends introduced after February 15th 2007 will be discontinued in 2021 if nothing changes. The other blends will continue to be available.

 

[blendtobac]

Although it's not a super-accurate way to check, you can look for reviews and look for the oldest. If the review is from before February 2007, the blend is probably safe.
Russ

 

[kola]

Thanks. Yep I just saw this after googling around (and as you posted Jesse):
"Pipe tobaccos that came on the market between 2/15/07 and 8/8/16 have two years to submit their products for approval. This process is quite expensive, prohibitively so! I have heard estimates ranging up to $250,000 per item."

 

[sablebrush52]

Although it's not a super-accurate way to check, you can look for reviews and look for the oldest. If the review is from before February 2007, the blend is probably safe.

+1
But in Greg's case, the dates of introduction are listed in the heading

 

[kola]

Looks like Triple Play, Key Largo, Gas Light and others could be on the hit list.
Any links to what Greg has said in this regard? I know I'm always late to the party. My apologies.

 

[perdurabo]

I think in the long run we will have nothing to worry about. The FDA will have to do away with with two regulations for every one regulation/law they impose. It will cripple their unlawful regulations in the long run. Smart move from the Executive Branch in my opinion. And I'm not a Pom Pom boy.

 

[thesmokindragon]

Gives my TAD more Tacklin Fuel to stock up on some of those blends...they may slow us down, but they will NEVER stop us ::

 

[swb118]

Blends produced after 15 March, 2007:

The following blends were introduced after the so-called Deeming Date, and may be subject to the new FDA regulations at some future date.
Embarcadero

Union Square

Maltese Falcon

The Virginia Cream

Key Largo

The entire Old London Series

The entire New World Collection

 

[kola]

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[darwin]

Doubtless this has been asked before but if it has I missed the answer. Is 2007 the year the enabling legislation for this blatant social engineering exercise passed or is it merely an arbitrary date pulled out of thin air?

 

[sablebrush52]

Doubtless this has been asked before but if it has I missed the answer. Is 2007 the year the enabling legislation for this blatant social engineering exercise passed or is it merely an arbitrary date pulled out of thin air?

It's the date set in the original legislation, which wasn't passed until 2009.

 

[perdurabo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_tobacco_by_the_U.S._Food_and_Drug_Administration
Read this, Congress passed on its obligation, which is unconstitutional. In my mind it's null and void.

 

[jpmcwjr]

So, can we safely say it was pulled out of some very fat butts at the FDA and in Congress??

 

[perdurabo]

Congress passed on its duty to an institution that has no Legal authority,Jp.

 

[perdurabo]

My whole issue is that Congress can not pass on its legal authority to another branch or institution. This is something all of us should be pitch forking over, like mad men and women. Not trying to be political. This is a natural law issue.
Dead Horse beat here, hope none get offended. Just trying to stay objective.

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

My whole issue is that Congress can not pass on its legal authority to another branch or institution.

The case that held the NRA (not the National Rifle Association, the FDR era National Recovery Administration) to be unconstitutional held exactly what you say. It has never been expressly over ruled. Unfortunately, it has never been followed, either, and the Supreme Court has ignored requests that it be applied in fairly recent cases.
I have no earthly idea what if any further action the FDA will take, but the Courts won't bail us out, at least not on the issue you raise

 

[loadclear]

My whole issue is that Congress can not pass on its legal authority to another branch or institution

I think that you are wholeheartedly correct.
However this is certainly not the first time this has happened, and it will continue to happen- on both sides of the aisle.
For example, only Congress can declare war, however they have abdicated this responsibility to the the Executive branch in all but name- hense all the "police actions" and "Operation _______". There are many more examples, but to delve into these would get opinionated and political very quickly.
Sorry to get political, I don't mean to, but the regulation of tobacco cannot be easily divorced from politics.
In my opinion, the Congressional Branch of government has abdicated quite a bit of power to "regulations" over law, through the enactions of law which theoretically allow Executive Branch entities like the FDA to proscribe law via regulation.

 

[perdurabo]

I think if you go into business these days, you might want to have a company like Academi at your side. And pay them very well.

 

[perdurabo]

But yea, These GLP blends will be missed if the hammer finally drops.