Dunhill Straight System Pipes

[Dshift]

Why is noone talking about dunhill straight system pipes? Is this one of those things, where everyone knows about it, but me?
A couple of months ago I got a Dunhill shell 926 in a trade and it was one of the best smoking dunhills i have ever smoked? It had a tankard style chamber, with a double bottom and draft hole in the middle. I sold it because I wasn't into straight pipes at the time, also it was just huge.
Recently i wanted to find a small pipe with the same system, but I can't find any info on it...

 

[georged]

A couple of months ago I got a Dunhill shell 926 in a trade and it was one of the best smoking dunhills i have ever smoked? It had a tankard style chamber, with a double bottom and draft hole in the middle. I sold it because I wasn't into straight pipes at the time, also it was just huge.

It was a system of any kind, just had space for a filter ---

 

[Dshift]

It was a system of any kind, just had space for a filter ---


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But what about the double bottom, that's a very unusual design for dunhill, right? Actually for other brands too... I have seen it on Peterson straight systems and rattray's tankards, i am sure there is a lot more.

 

[Alanon]

But what about the double bottom, that's a very unusual design for dunhill, right? Actually for other brands too... I have seen it on Peterson straight systems and rattray's tankards, i am sure there is a lot more.

I’m curious, what do you mean by double bottom?

 

[Sea Lord]

I have never heard of Dunhill 'System' pipes. Can you show a few photos?

 

[Dshift]

Ok the first one is gone so i don't have photos of the chamber but I am looking at another one and here is the only photo I have for now, where the central draft hole could be seen

The principle is the same as in this photo but the hole is centered

 

[ssjones]

I've never heard of or seen a Dunhill system pipe with a 2nd chamber like Peterson.
Filter pipes, like George shared and 60's or so had the metal tube, that went into a tapered tenon.

 

[Alanon]

Ok the first one is gone so i don't have photos of the chamber but I am looking at another one and here is the only photo I have for now, where the central draft hole could be seen
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The principle is the same as in this photo but the hole is centeredView attachment 437700

Well I’ve certainly never seen nor heard of that!
Looks really interesting.

 

[Dshift]

I will try to find some photos of the first one and I will take some of the second one once it arrives, but I haven't heard of or seen that before and I can't find info anywhere

 

[Dshift]

But hey it smoked like a champ, that's what I know

 

[ashdigger]

Charatan made an Underboar, but that was in the 20’s. Here’s a few marketing items and a picture of mine.

I’ve never heard of Dunhill having a System, the Underboar isn’t a System, it’s a way of simplifying cleaning of the pipe.

 

[Dshift]

Charatan made an Underboar, but that was in the 20’s. Here’s a few marketing items and a picture of mine.

I’ve never heard of Dunhill having a System, the Underboar isn’t a System, it’s a way of simplifying cleaning of the pipe.

I wonder if underbore and system don't blend into each other, seing that they have such a similar design... The condenser being the difference, but even that isn't a must in order to call a pipe a system pipe

 

[ssjones]

Charatan made an Underboar, but that was in the 20’s. Here’s a few marketing items and a picture of mine.

I’ve never heard of Dunhill having a System, the Underboar isn’t a System, it’s a way of simplifying cleaning of the pipe.

I had to google Skirms Smoke Shop! It was located in Princeton, NJ (a wonderful NJ town).

 

[Shore]

I wonder if underbore and system don't blend into each other, seing that they have such a similar design... The condenser being the difference, but even that isn't a must in order to call a pipe a system pipe

I would point out that there is more to a system pipe that just the reservoir, and an underboar lacks at least two of the system pipe features...my $0.02

Image courtesy of Peterson Pipe Notes

 

[Dshift]

I would point out that there is more to a system pipe that just the reservoir, and an underboar lacks at least two of the system pipe features...my $0.02

Image courtesy of Peterson Pipe Notes

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Just two of these features are system specific - the reservoir and the condenser. Some modern Peterson "system" pipes come with 9mm filters, so we are left with just the reservoir. It's semantics at this point, but still. I can also rephrase the question to - Why is noone talking about underbore Dunhills?

 

[Dshift]

Charatan made an Underboar, but that was in the 20’s. Here’s a few marketing items and a picture of mine.

I’ve never heard of Dunhill having a System, the Underboar isn’t a System, it’s a way of simplifying cleaning of the pipe.

Now here is a nice rabbit hole for me to lose a day or two... You mentioned charatan from the 20s and showed a Gordon branded pipe... No spoilers please

 

[ashdigger]

Well, it’s simple. Underboar and System are Patents. Dunhill does have several versions of “dry” pipes from back in the day.

Kinda like Stingers, everyone has a marketing catch.

 

[ashdigger]

I scored this one the other day. Obviously nobody but me knew how rare this pipe is.

Vintage CHARATANS Make London England Tobacco Pipe GORDON UNDERBOAR | eBay

582372 150 are the numbers I see. This has been used with teeth marks, small nick out the of wood as seen in the 3rd pic. Small circle or O on the top of the stem. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN BROKEN OFF AND IS NOT INSIDE THE PIPE.

ebay.us

 

[Dshift]

I scored this one the other day. Obviously nobody but me knew how rare this pipe is.

Vintage CHARATANS Make London England Tobacco Pipe GORDON UNDERBOAR | eBay

582372 150 are the numbers I see. This has been used with teeth marks, small nick out the of wood as seen in the 3rd pic. Small circle or O on the top of the stem. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN BROKEN OFF AND IS NOT INSIDE THE PIPE.

ebay.us

Lovely pipe that needs a "bit" of work

 

[ssjones]

I scored this one the other day. Obviously nobody but me knew how rare this pipe is.

Vintage CHARATANS Make London England Tobacco Pipe GORDON UNDERBOAR | eBay

582372 150 are the numbers I see. This has been used with teeth marks, small nick out the of wood as seen in the 3rd pic. Small circle or O on the top of the stem. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN BROKEN OFF AND IS NOT INSIDE THE PIPE.

ebay.us

Should be a relatively easy restore, fascinating grab! Has the mechanism been altered?