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iamn8

Lifer
Sep 8, 2014
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I just see blended tobacco as I see wine. If I open a bottle, I enjoy it for what it is. If I don't like it... gone. I enjoy it or not and move on. I understand creating blends from basic ingredients. I understand decorating a room to fit your taste. I get auto mods. I wouldn't understand altering a painting to fit ones taste, but would agree it's your right to do so. When I tire of a blend, I move on to the next. The tobacco that's left at the bottom gets tossed. Again, I'd never mix wines or single malts/bourbons/whiskeys. When I find a dish that I love at a resteraunt, I'll keep going back for it. To this day, since trying it over 20yrs ago, little makes me as happy as salad, steak, spinach, and tiramisu at Ruth's Chris. I've never wanted to try anything else there. I love exploring tobaccos, just not blending my own... not even a little bit. Am I really in the minority here?

Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't nor am I attempting to convince you that you shouldn't, only that I do not. If you were to lay out a table filled with straight tobacco and one with prefab tinned tobacco blends, I'd rather explore the blends than make my own. This isn't a general philosophy that spills into my entire life. Sometimes I do prefer to make things on my own. I love exploring and trying new things. This conversation began because mixing Dunhill blends seemed an odd choice to me and I was curious as to the motivation :puffy:

 

toobfreak

Lifer
Dec 19, 2016
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I see tobacco a little different, Nate. Wine is a finished product. A painting is a finished product. But a tobacco blend is just an aggregate of separate tobaccos mixed together in a can. When you read the reviews, one has virginias, burleys and black cavendish with maybe a splash of latakia. Another is burley and cavendish with a bit of virginia for sweetness topped with latakia. They are just different proportions (basically) of the same stuff, other than any added toppings, etc. Oversimplified but you get my drift.
So when mixing blends, you are just altering the proportions in many cases and combining whatever toppings or other processing effects. No different than when the first colonialists discovered perique from the natives and tried adding a pinch to their tobacco. I've never met a tobacco that was so bad I'd throw it away without finding something I could blend it with to make it much better. I guess I'm very frugal. I know what I like and while there are great blends, few are ever exactly what I would choose to make and blending blends offers an almost infinite palette of constantly changing flavor choices, many of which quite possibly no one but you has ever discovered before!
What I'm smoking right now is impossible to duplicate. It is a blend of three frankenblends, each themselves made from previous frankenblends, some of the constituents of which go back ten years aging and are no longer even made today. When it's gone, its gone.
Just as any pipe carver here will tell you, it is great to buy a magnificent pipe! But it is a thrill beyond words when you carve it yourself with your own hands. Nice enough to find a commercial blend that smokes great--- infinitely better joy smoking it when it is something you yourself came up with.
The day might come when all we can get is raw tobacco (maybe grown by ourselves), and there is a bit of the tobacco "prepper" in me trying to learn what goes into making good blends myself. :mrgreen:

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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DM, I know you're a blender and no offense was intended. I don't look at blends of tobacco as ingredients analogous to cooking. The better analogy would be buying an entree at a fine restaurant, taking it home, and throwing it in the blender while adding other entrees
No offense taken or interpreted as implied. It is a legitimate cause for inquiry. Let us use the restaurant analogy: I go to a fine restaurant, and I tell the waiter my preferences regarding a famous dish, such as having more meat, less potato, more pepper, cook it a bit longer, and so on. I have essentially extended the cook's recipe to be more customized for my needs. And think how many of our favorite blends now came from customers ordering a mixture from their local tobacconist!

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Sometimes finishing off a tin or jar, I'll put one blend (or single leaf) with another. With the Dunhill's, it's all in the family. Often time mixes make a good smoke. I don't feel any principle involved, especially finishing off small quantities. I do conserve up-market blends and smoke them mostly as sold. However, some mixing is a good thing, to learn how that works, how some things will supplement and harmonize, and others just get muddy and sometimes repulsive. It makes me respect successful blenders even more, and I can understand how they can spend months or even years getting a particular blend right.

 

iamn8

Lifer
Sep 8, 2014
4,248
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Moody, AL
Just to see what it's all about, today I broke down and did my own blending. I mixed a bowl of 50% fresh Exotique and 50% three month old Exotique. It was stupid and reckless and won't ever happen again.

 

jvnshr

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Staff member
Sep 4, 2015
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Just to see what it's all about, today I broke down and did my own blending. I mixed a bowl of 50% fresh Exotique and 50% three month old Exotique. It was stupid and reckless and won't ever happen again.
Nah, big mistake. It should have been 48,85% fresh and 51,15% 3,5 months old Exotique. And don't forget to sprinkle some Perique on it with the method below:
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iamn8

Lifer
Sep 8, 2014
4,248
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Moody, AL
Damn I knew I had likely messed up the recipe. I'll try it again. Unfortunately, my supply of straight perique and other condiment tobaccos has dwindled thin. I do however have a few cigar butts I could grind up in my tobacco mill. I'll report back and let you guys know.

That sounded kinda snarky huh? :puffy:

 

jvnshr

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Sep 4, 2015
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Damn I knew I had likely messed up the recipe. I'll try it again. Unfortunately, my supply of straight perique and other condiment tobaccos has dwindled thin. I do however have a few cigar butts I could grind up in my tobacco mill. I'll report back and let you guys know.

That sounded kinda snarky huh?
Of course you messed it up, blending is an art, political art actually. I am a leftist when I make my own English blends, liberal while making Aromatics. Cigar butts are the best if they have enough saliva on them, I hope I don't have to teach about moisture content.

 
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