Dunhill Question for the experts out there.

[mattia76]

Hey guys,

I just picked up what I believe to be an unsmoked 1985 Dunhill 5405 in the Chestnut finish w/ a cumberland stem.
The only problem is that "Dunhill" isn't stamped anywhere on the pipe.

What it DOES have is:

-5405

-MADE IN ENGLAND25

-the Dunhill white spot on the stem-which appears in every way to be an authentic, hand-cut Dunhill brindle stem.
The shape is also RARE. Some internet research revealed a lot of Dunhill 4405 (the group 4 variant), but no other 5405's.
It also appears to be completely fill-free.
Can anyone help me out there? Have you ever heard of a Dunhill that wasn't actually stamped "Dunhill"??

 

[hauntedmyst]

If you can post some pics that would be great. I haven't heard of Dunhill not stamped Dunhill but I suppose its not out of the question. That being said, fakes are known to be out there...less so now than 20 years ago.
The First 5 is the size, the 40 I believe is the slightly bent stem which isn't very common and the last 5 is the dublin shape. Does your pipe match that?

 

[mattia76]

OK, here's some pics.
If you look closely at the last pic of the stem, you'll see that once upon a time, someone wanted $415.00.

I just found this, and it further confirms it for me as authentic.
But does anyone out there know for sure?

 

[daveinlax]

It's missing the Chestnut or Russet finish nomenclature too. Enjoy it, missing nomenclature affects the value not how it will smoke. 8O

 

[papipeguy]

Usually the pipes are stamped Dunhill along with the finish, ie. Cumberland, etc. Here's a site that may be another starting point for you.
http://www.rdfield.com/Articles/A%20Dunhill%20Pipe%20Dating.htm

 

[mattia76]

Thank you both.
I have both a legitimate 1984 Dunhill Cumberland Poker (with a stem that looks identical to the pipe in question), as well as a Dunhill 1982 Chestnut 4111 w/ all of the same stamping in the same places, except it's got a "DUNHILL" and "CHESTNUT" and this one doesn't.
So I'm 95% sure it's a legit Dunhill that the factory didn't stamp, BUT I was wondering if anyone had ever seen any other Dunhill's where this was the case.

 

[hauntedmyst]

Look up Music City Marketing, they distribute Dunhill's here in the USA. They may have someone on their staff you can send pics to review.