Dunhill experts? Knowledge needed.

[samcoffeeman]

The shaping is very Dunhill like, but other than that, very little to support the theory. If it smokes good, it was worth what you paid for it.

 

[georged]

Sure as hell looks like a Dunhill, but Dunhill wouldn't have used their while dot on a house pipe. Maybe a faux Dunhill made by someone who worked at Dunhill? Or just a very well done fake.

Another possibility is someone simply decided to stamp it as a house pipe---dot be damned---to get a promised shipment out the door that day.
After all, the ale was waitin' at the pub, and Dunhill employees were (according to some rumors, anyway) human.

 

[sablebrush52]

After all, the ale was waitin' at the pub, and Dunhill employees were (according to some rumors, anyway) human.

True, and there was that batch "fake" Dunhills that was made by a Dunhill employee and sold off the back of a lorry at midnight.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Ok, few more pics. One showing the overall length/scale.

The dot measures 7.5mm from where the tenon meets the body of the stem, so, indecision is rampant.

Getting a good angle on the mortise is tricky.

I really like the draw on this pipe. In that respect it surprised me.

Ive got some Flitz on hand so I may try some on the stem. I'm going to get some obsidian oil with my next online order.

This is the first vulcanite stem with oxidation I've ever owned.

 

[georged]

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OK. The tenon is crooked, off-center, not flat-ended, and has both a rough face and face-to-cylinder transition.
Dunhill didn't make it.
The pipe itself probably wasn't intended as a deliberate (serious) fake, though, because no attempt was made to monkey with the nomenclature.
I think someone just decided to add a white dot to a shop pipe. Maybe for fun (I've done it myself), or just because they thought it looked cool. We'll never know.

 

[ssjones]

My only Dunhill tenon picture, from a '77 Root Briar.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Well it's good to know.. thanks all.

 

[laearl]

Very cool! Nice pipe and very interesting background too! That is why I love this site.
I was out and about one day several years back and stumbled onto a large deep (It will accept my index finger to the 2nd knuckle!) rusticated Billiard with a red dot in the same place as the Dunhill. I looked it over and found it wasn't a Dunhill but Dr. Plumb which is a GBD 2nd made for the French and Canadian Markets.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Ooo I've seen exactly 1 Dr Plumb before.

Speaking of GBD seconds, I have a Digby that I really like. The stem is very basic though..may eventually have someone do a custom stem for it.

 

[foggymountain]

I hate to be the sour note in the symphony, but Dunhill shell briars are a poor smoke, compared to any of their smooth pipes. Even the Red Bark and County smoke better. So it doesn't really matter if it is a Dunhill or not.

 

[georged]

I hate to be the sour note in the symphony, but Dunhill shell briars are a poor smoke, compared to any of their smooth pipes. Even the Red Bark and County smoke better. So it doesn't really matter if it is a Dunhill or not.

Seriously? :roll:

 

[jefff]

I have a 2001 shell prince that smokes wonderfully.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Dunhill shell briars are a poor smoke, compared to any of their smooth pipes

Wut 8O

 

[wyfbane]

That is a nice looker whether it is a Dunnie or not. I think you did well. Foggy, I really hadn't noticed a big difference from my smooths to my shells with regard to Dunhill smoking quality. I would like to see a new thread on that discussion.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

So after thinking on it, it seems to me that the purveyor basically LIED to me in order to make a sale.

I'd like to take it back, call him out, and demand a refund.
Anyone have any similar experiences with pipe shops?

 

[mso489]

Depending on the price, it seems like a good buy, since it smokes well, and looks high end. It's a pretty pipe, nicely shaped.

 

[ssjones]

Most pipe shops (nee cigar...) know surprisingly little about pipes.

So, you have to take all comments with a grain of salt and do your due diligence.

Again, price dictates how offended you can be. At $10, it's still an nice pipe. If he sold it to you at Dunhill prices ($400+), well that's a lesson.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Its just that the more I think about it, the more malicious it seems. I SHOULD have done the research before buying.

It didn't cost near an actual Dunhill, but I feel like I paid more than the pipe is worth.

I'll probably just suck it up. It's a shame though, as it sours me on the shop that has the best selection of tins locally.