I think I've read that thread before, buroak, or seen one like it. I don't know what the "made in France" reference is based on, but I just bought a new Dunhill pot and it was at least the equal of estates I've had from the 60s or 70s. Fit and finish were perfect. Draw is nice. And with the the Euro priced the way it is right now, it was only slightly overpriced. :mrgreen: In general, I think Dunhills are overpriced, but not overrated. For certain classic shapes like the pot, the billiard and the zulu, nobody does them quite like Dunhill. And the bulldog.