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georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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That's may be part of the answer. Speaking as one of those guys smoking 30 years ago (more than 50 actually) I would say that there was a style to what was a fully ready tobacco that has largely disappeared, though you can recapture some of that with some G & H and SG blends, and until recently, Germain's as well. Processing and aging of the leaf before being blended and after being blended has been reduced to reduce costs to the manufacturer, so letting the tins age for a year of more may, and the word is "may" rectify some of that. Since some of these blends aren't really fully cooked at release, the changes aging brings may or may not please the customer.

MacBaren puts out some pretty good stuff, but it's not a match for what the Brits were doing decades ago. Denmark really is where British blends go to die. But Conglomerates have spent money on buying up famous IPs and are cashing in by pretending to continue those famous blends. As long as you like what's in the tin, doesn't matter if it resembles the blend that became famous enough for its name to be carried on. As long as you haven't smoked the original versions you won't know what's different.

Sutliff still releases blends with really good aged components, like their Cringle Flakes, though their style isn't like decades ago. They supplied leaf to all the top blenders at one time or another and produced some much loved blends of their own. They still have quality components.

KBV does those micro batches made from small caches of left over quality leaf. Their releases are generally really good, but small, and then gone.

K&K seems to have bought up all the IP's and pushed out tons of blends under different labels that were pretty decent quality , not like their British originals, but good smokes nonetheless, though some of the blends have been subject to component swapping in the last 4 to 5 years.

Bottom line is if you like what you're smoking that's all that matters. Trying to recapture the past isn't going to happen. A lot of those old practices are nearly as extinct as the dodo.

You adapt and find where the good stuff is in any period. And, like anything else, Sturgeon's Law applies.


Reading this ^^^^ and passing a test on it should be required by every applicant who wants to join the board.

With a refresher test every couple weeks for the first six months, to be able to log on.

The result---never mind the dramatically lowered power needs of Kevin's server forevermore---would do more to promote a Zen-like peace and understanding in the PipeWorld than anything else I can think of.
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,199
22,998
SE PA USA
I’m assuming this is another expression of frustration with the small batch and special edition releases. It’s a fair enough position to take… I’m not sure there’s another way for some of these blends to make it to market, but I do wish that some of them made it to regular production. There are probably reasons why this isn’t the case, and I don’t know them, so I’ll buy the ones that sound good when they get announced. It is kind of annoying, but it’s become part of most “niche” market product sales.
I’m amazed that consumers buy into this hucksterism, then have the bewildering audacity to complain about it.

That is all.
 

BarrelProof

Lifer
Mar 29, 2020
2,701
10,613
40
The Last Frontier
I could be happy with just a good virginia flake for the rest of my days I think. Unfortunately when choices become scant we'll just have burley and aromatics to choose from

Unfortunately?! Hell, I could be happy with burley and aromatics for the rest of my days!

That’s what I love about this stuff: to each his own. That said, I buy all sorts of shit. If/when it becomes difficult to get, I’ll have quite the variety in the cellar and it’ll be deep where I want it to be.
 
Jul 26, 2021
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Metro-Detroit
have and it certainly reads like USSR at the time it was written with more technology. I personally liked animal farm better and also found Brave New World more compelling and likely.
Toward the end of 1984, the main character tries lighting a rollie cigarette but the cheap tobacco fell out. Your post reminded me of that "scene".

Agreed on Brave New World.
 
Aug 11, 2022
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Cedar Rapids, IA
from my understanding that's pretty real world for people in USSR at that time. With the party members having fancy cigs.
People often assume that satire/sci-fi set in the future is supposed to be speculative, but quite often it’s really a commentary on the present day. The change in context is just to encourage the reader to consider things afresh.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
17,111
32,124
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
People often assume that satire/sci-fi set in the future is supposed to be speculative, but quite often it’s really a commentary on the present day. The change in context is just to encourage the reader to consider things afresh.
Exaggerate just enough to get people to look at right now at a slightly different angle. Even when they're trying to be speculative it's coming more from what's going on now and the present outlook. Though on the speculative side things can get really funny. Like how when I was younger so many of the movies predicted sports going full gladiator and the gleeful inclusion of intentional murder. Which seems like the opposite directions most sports are going.
 
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